One thing last nights BCS Championship taught us about college sports...

ITT lot of angry butt hurt Oregon fans.

I hate Auburn, I do, being a Seminoles and Florida fan.

But Auburn straight up kicked Oregon's butt. The game was close only because of 2 pt conversions, and a Newton turnover.

And lets not forget, Auburn played an SEC schedule, and an extra game than a Pac-10 team would.

I'm not saying Cal or Stanford, or even Oregon State and Arizona are easy teams to beat, but the Pac-10 doesn't even come close to the SEC.

Had Alabama, LSU, or Arkansas been in this game Oregon would have lost. Florida, South Carolina, and Mississippi State would have given Oregon a run for its Money. Thats almost 2/3 of the SEC that could challenge the best the rest of the country has to offer.

Face it, the SEC, and the Texas schools are simply the best in the nation. The South is the best in Football hands down.

The only case this wasn't true was Virginia Tech (over rated) losing to Stanford (slightly overrated) and the rest of the ACC losing horribly in games they shouldn't have to non-conference opponents.

I've lived my entire life on the West Coast. I also had no idea I was eating with silver spoons. I think my spoons are actually cheap metal. How do you think I could I sell them for to an east coaster who can't tell the difference?

push uper wrote:

I do know it is very easy to carry more weight by using your wrist, rather than your hand.

Actually just the opposite. That's why we use our hands and not our wrists to stop ourselves. Someone who tries the opposite generally ends up with a broken wrist.

It is also easy to have a wrist touch a surface but not the hand.

I don't know how easy it is but it certainly didn't happen here. That's the reason why the only place that this is a "controversy" is on LetsRun and in the living rooms of Oregon supporters

You don't much about anatomy or how to use force with body.

You must know not read any further than letsrun. The reason the ref gave for not calling the play down was not that the hand was on the ground and no other body part. It was that he didn't see the play and he did not whether any part of the runner touched the ground at all. He simply did not make a claim, one way or the other.

This is a controversy across the interwebs. Check the outside world news, so that your conclusions are not drawn only from posts only from letsrun.

http://atlanta.sbnation.com/2011/1/11/1927960/auburn-michael-dyer-wrist-was-down

Another thing that the championship has taught me (or reminded me of): It's cool to be an absolute thug with no more sense of decency than the average barnyard animal if you're a pretty good football player. Feel like giving someone a nice knee to the face while no play is going on? Well, we'll give you a penalty for that, but wouldn't think of ejecting you for committing battery. And certainly the fans won't think any worse of you for it.

I actually through Auburn played cleaner in this game than the nasty replays I've seen from other games.

Schools in the nation's 11 major football-playing conferences that are doing the best and worst jobs of graduating athletes in all their sports*:

Conference Best Rate Worst Rate

Atlantic Coast Duke 97% North Carolina State 72%

Big East Football: Rutgers 87% South Florida 71%

Non-football: Notre Dame 99%

Big Ten Northwestern 97% Purdue 78%

Big 12 Kansas State 81% Texas Tech 67%

Conference USA Rice 95% Alabama-Birmingham 67%

Mid-American Miami (Ohio) 86% Ball State 71%

Mountain West Air Force 90% San Diego State 67%

Pacific 10 Stanford 94% Arizona 65%

Southeastern Vanderbilt 93% Mississippi, Arkansas 72%

Sun Belt Western Kentucky 79% Football: Louisiana-Monroe, Florida International 57%

Non-football: New Orleans 56%

Western Athletic Utah State 83% San Jose State 53%

pookey wrote:

Face it, the SEC, and the Texas schools are simply the best in the nation. The South is the best in Football hands down.

Texas? You must have been watching different games than I did.

Texas didn't even make a bowl game and looked like utter s**t all season.

Texas A&M got manhandled by LSU.

Baylor got their asses handed to them by Illinois.

SMU lost to Army. ARMY!! That's a joke of a team.

Texas Tech barely beat Northwestern, a team which couldn't win any games after their quarterback broke his foot.

TCU was the only good texas team this year. Even then they still had a close game against Wisconsin from the over-rated Big-10.

Also, how are you a Seminoles and Gators fan? Every fan of either school I know passionately hates the other school. Or do you just jump on the Bandwagon of whatever school is doing better? I assume this year you were a Seminoles fan.

It doesn't matter if his wrist was down. What does matter is that the replay did not provide sufficient evidence to overturn the call.

The link photo provided shows an ESPN watermark. ESPN televised the game. Aren't the ESPN camera feeds supposed to be available to the replay booth? How could they possibly miss the feed from the camera that showed the Auburn player's much closer to the ground than the LSU player's wrist from a BCS game last week?

Here is my issue with the one play. First let me say this I do think his wrist was down and due to the call in the Ohio State-Arkansas game I say that there is precedent to say he should be down. On the other hand I think trying to show the difference between hand and wrist is a little nit picky.

The part that I have a problem with is that if they weren't on this new we must turn all of football into flag football I believe that the lineman next to the tackle jumps on. Due to the fact that we have made it two hand touch he doesn't jump on because he doesn't want to get a 15 yard penalty. There are many times where guys are getting flags for hits they are making before the whistle is blown. I say that a hit is legal as long as it is before the whistle (as long as it isn't a facemask, horsecollar, etc.) and we need to stop this two hand touch crap.

That play looks like it should have been called dead, for the simple reason to protect the running back from injury. Notice, in the photos of the tackle, that there is an Oregon defender right behind the running back. That guy held back, and didn't pile on, because that would have been a certain penalty.

exactly what I am saying rugby player

We both agree there was a problem with play. The referees should have called the play back. It doesn't matter whether the player's hand did, or did not touch the ground. An athlete needs to know they will be protected.

The defensive player needs to know they do not need to pile on an hurt someone because the ref did not blow the whistle. Otherwise, there is no reason not to risk injury to the player on the ground.

The football rules seem poorly thought out. Risk of injury seems to be encouraged when I see something like this. The defensive player that did not pile one did the right thing. It is unfortunate the referee was telling him it was still okay to pile on.

I'll stick Rugby, which although not perfect, at least is more sportman like than football.

Has the SEC kicked Arkansas out of the conference yet? They not only got beat by The Buckeyes, they have the dumbest players in the league!!!

Mississippi tied at the bottom with Arkansas. The percentage doesn't mean anything unless you know what degrees were earned. I would expect that the degrees earned by football players, and their GPAs, would be rather interesting, and revealing.

The SEC is a great football conference, because the South is crazy about youth football, high school football, and college football (not pro). There is an unbelievable amount of participation in youth football here in the South. They would have eight simultaneous youth games (five year olds and up) going all day long on Saturdays here in Savannah in Daffin Park alone (every one of them black, to illustrate how segregated even sports are here). There is nothing comparable anywhere else in the country. Add in the Southern diet for weight gain and it is surprising that West Coast and Midwest teams ever challenge them.

rugby player wrote:

We both agree there was a problem with play. The referees should have called the play back. It doesn't matter whether the player's hand did, or did not touch the ground. An athlete needs to know they will be protected.

The defensive player needs to know they do not need to pile on an hurt someone because the ref did not blow the whistle. Otherwise, there is no reason not to risk injury to the player on the ground.

The football rules seem poorly thought out. Risk of injury seems to be encouraged when I see something like this. The defensive player that did not pile one did the right thing. It is unfortunate the referee was telling him it was still okay to pile on.

I'll stick Rugby, which although not perfect, at least is more sportman like than football.

Good for you that you both agree there was a problem with the play. The referees disagree with you. I'm gonna take a chance and go with them.

And there was no chance of danger of just holding on to the man. What a complete crock. He didn't have to slam him to the ground. Just hold on. Do you even watch the play?

I hate to break this to you but the call was the right one to make. There's not story except in the minds of those rooting for Oregon or against Auburn.

Every time a team loses, somebody whines about the bad calls. Grow up people. A bunch of thugs beat another bunch of thugs. Case closed.

The call was the wrong one to make. The player was in a position to be rolled down, his legs would have been in the air, and the defender behind could have jumped on and forced a nasty doubling of the back.

Watch the play again. Pay attention. A back is not meant to double back far, and especially not with some 250 pounds dropped on in with force.

Accept that the call was a bad one. I could care less about Auburn or Oregon. I do care about sportsmanship. That is the failure with American football.