The answer to your question is here,
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3863010&page=0
You would think national security is at stake with the zeal and venom they have over there.
The answer to your question is here,
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3863010&page=0
You would think national security is at stake with the zeal and venom they have over there.
The answer would be that they are just grown up obsessive and petty dorks- i.e. runners...i.e. participants in an obsessive, D list sport.
obsession wrote:
The answer to your question is here,
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3863010&page=0You would think national security is at stake with the zeal and venom they have over there.
I'm still wondering just who that Kip Litton chap is.
They run every race, like it's their last? Well when you get up there in age, there is always a concern that the next injury will be the one that ends your competitive running (no more speed work). Let alone getting knocked out by cancer, blindness or something nonmedical like divorce, bankruptcy, etc.
And yes it's fun beating the youngsters, especially at High School all-comer's meets.
Back in 82 wrote:
Gonna break out my old nylon Sub-4 or Dolphin shorty shorts for my next race. Bitch!
Break em out? I never put mine away!! I do miss my hawaiian and pinstripe running shorts though.
I'm probably more creepy at the fitness center when I fall off the treadmill after a lung searing workout than I am at a race. I couldn't run from 20 to 37 so it does give me a little joy when I can keep up with the former 30 minute 10k guys that are in my age group.
what ae you saying over the hill 40 because at 40 -42 or so we still have guys and women in the years past going after world records and olympic gold .So mid 40 s is not over the hill no f n way .Matter a fact 50 is not eather.To the guys 60 to 70 or 80 or 90 or 100 plus keep it up.Setting world marks for your age is great and i 38(3 weeks) and hope to be you some day.
guys 43 or 45 win big money and there no diffrence between 35-40 except at 35 you dont get master money.
Haile Satayin of Ethiopia/Israel ran a 2:14:03 marathon at age 48, and competed in the olympics at 49 and 53. Personally I don't see anything wrong with masters still running seriously, especially when it is quite possible for them to still run elite times.
classof89 wrote:
And yes it's fun beating the youngsters, especially at High School all-comer's meets.
Word. Especially when it's at York.
jjjjjjjjjjj wrote:
This thread topic is in the masters category. You're dating yourself. Try something new.
They took away my lighter.
Anyhoo, once you have to start wearing shoes that close with Velcro it makes you obsessive and creepy.
dotato wrote:
Word. Especially when it's at York.
Reminded me of Mike Egle winning a mile at a York open meet at age 42 over a class A champion and York's #2 runner who finished 2nd in state in the 1600 that year.
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Stuck with Matches.com wrote:
It's on like Donkey Kong!
Man, that was an awesome game for its era. Almost wanted to make me become a video game programmer; that and Tempest. I don't run anymore, but I see nothing wrong with 50-somethings trying to stay fit and competitive and able to achieve the same times they ran in high school. I'd take that (though I'm a long way off from 50 still).
Sagarin wrote:
Stuck with Matches.com wrote:It's on like Donkey Kong!
Man, that was an awesome game for its era. Almost wanted to make me become a video game programmer; that and Tempest. I don't run anymore, but I see nothing wrong with 50-somethings trying to stay fit and competitive and able to achieve the same times they ran in high school. I'd take that (though I'm a long way off from 50 still).
For me, it's on like Pong these days.
But what the Hell! At least I'm still upright and moving.
As a guy turning 40 this year, I kinda understand what you mean about the Masters guys.
Two years ago at age 38 I ran a 15:15 5k and a 1:10 half. That was pretty much the last year my body could take speedwork, so I finally gave in and started my running life of lots of jogging and weight-lifting which is fine by me(I look the same). This is because I ran my ass off through my teens, twenties and thirties. I got to see the real glitter up close in my running career. Now I'm enjoying life and my new career.
The thing about Masters runners beating up on the youth: I'd be saying "So what? Where were you when you were young?".
The only thing you are triumphing over is guys who used up their legs early chasing Olympics. Beating these guys now is only flimsy, deep-conscious revenge in which you are only inventing an audience of cheering in your mind.
Are you proud to say you are:
1)No longer lazy and unfocused like you were when young, drinking lotsa beer, chasing tail?
2) Preserved your legs running sub-standard mileage? Hence, the sub-standard careers you enjoyed in your youth?
The only thing I would really enjoy competitively as a Masters runner would be beating up on other Masters runners - if I gave a damn, that is.
you love the sport, so you keep doing it, and you respect the sport, so you work hard to realize your potential at whatever age. and most of these guys are your bosses, so watch your mouth.
Ha! Not MY bosses!
MasterYodaWithCaneNow wrote:
The only thing I would really enjoy competitively as a Masters runner would be beating up on other Masters runners - if I gave a damn, that is.
lots of words for someone who doesn't give a damn. i can only speak for me, but my comment earlier was due to my experience running the open meets at a very competitive high school. being taunted at the starting line, regardless of age or ability, would and should fire the competitive spirit of anyone.
as to your premise, some of us actually had other pursuits. i swam and played water polo in college, which was after the military. i now run in the low 2:30s for the marathon and enjoy that. running 2:30 is nothing to crow about and i'm not, what i saying is your cynical take on the matter paints a picture of most i don't find to exist.
masters running against masters is a lot of fun. looking at road race results and consistently seeing 40+ and even 50 yo taking top three or over all is kind of cool. that's explainable according to you, as all the young folks are doing high mileage chasing the Olympics and don't have time for road racing.
Understood. Strong defense on your part,too, by the way for someone who's reasons are different from what I listed;)
I'll add category a #3 to the list:
3) Pursued others honorable interests (successfully) during the time the rest of us were chasing Olympic glory and are curiously making a late discovery on the promise that good training brings.
Cases #1 and #2 are definitely out there among you however. This thread is already littered with their commentary.
MasterYodaWithCaneNow wrote:
The thing about Masters runners beating up on the youth: I'd be saying "So what? Where were you when you were young?".
Are you proud to say you are:
1)No longer lazy and unfocused like you were when young, drinking lotsa beer, chasing tail?
2) Preserved your legs running sub-standard mileage? Hence, the sub-standard careers you enjoyed in your youth?
3) Someone who enjoys running fast more than ever, even after all these years.
A bit of unsolicited advice: Stop trying to guess other people's motives.
And by the way, I've never seen a masters runner who acted like s/he wanted to "beat up" on anybody, young or old. I've only seen people who were trying to run faster than they had before.