Since 1972:
Yankees: 7 championships
Steelers: 6 championships
Fairly even
Since 1972:
Yankees: 7 championships
Steelers: 6 championships
Fairly even
Doped sports are fake and don't have champions.
Dopers wrote:
Arod isn't the only doper. Plus no salary cap and of course they'll win more. It's not sports when one team is allowed a monopoly on dopers and revenue.
Good point. Thankfully, they share the division with the Red Sox, another team full of dopers and megasalaries.
Exactly. MLB players are doped. Baseball is a joke. The league could care less. Look at Halladay, Lee, Lincecum. Total roiders.
I think they are both equally impressive. You have to remember that for a lot of the Yankees Championships, there weren't that many teams in the league(I believe 16 teams until 1953) and their money advantage was huge. As a side note, everybody likes to talk about the Golden Age of Baseball of the 50's and 60's but if you look at the attendance from that period it really wasn't that good (as compared to the attendance today). It was the Golden Age of Baseball because it was the dominant sport up until the 1970's.
The Steelers had a lot more teams to compete with but have won fewer championships as a % of total championships played for the league. The Steelers have always been known as a class organization. Yes, Big Ben has come off as a huge jerk over the last few years. At a minimum he's guilty of some very bad decisions.
Patriots have done well and seem to have a system that works. Belichick wasn't that good in Cleveland but has found the right formula in New England. Whether that's due to his maturation as a coach, better players, or a better organization is debatable.
Yes Patriots fans, Brady gets a ton of love from the officials and benefits from the very stringent rules of today's game regarding hitting the quarterback and receivers. I would argue that they've got the perfect system for today's game (an accurate quarterback and receivers who run precise routes). Brady gets the ball out of his hands and the only chance the defense has is to bring the blitz(risky) or to play very physical with the wide receivers at the line scrimmage.
The NFL and the TV networks won't clamp down on HGH and steroids. The NFL is a good entertainment series but it is certainly not sports.
the celtics are the greatest dynasty ever. of 63 nba championships, they've won 17. thats about 27% of them ever played, a little higher of a number than the yankees
that was the old NBA before 365 day/year physical conditioning, super computer tracking, and statistics, changed the game to a technological battlefield. kobe and the lakers have proven to play the greatest basketball in the new NBA.
mlb stats before 1950 are null and void. after 1950 no salary cap made two mlbs, the rich yanks and dodgers, and the poor rest of the teams. with no salary cap it's been a 2 team monopoly. then you add PED use condoned by the MLB and TV media and what do you have ? a "reality show" not an athletics competition that's for certain.
were talking greatest dynasty ever here. You cant just say oh since year x this team has been the greatest dynasty because there are many teams that have been the best over a certain time frame
In the last 20 years, 13 teams have won a Super Bowl and 12 teams have won a World Series (13 if you add in the 1990 series to replace the 1994 strike year.) If you really want to see a league with no parity, try the EPL -- 4 champions since it was established in 1992.
Green Bay Packers 12 wins
Chicago Bears 9 wins
Cleavland Browns 8 wins
New York Giants 7 wins
Pittsburgh Steelers only 6 wins
HRE wrote:
some crazy runner guy wrote:I would also point out that calling a team whose star quarter back is continually accused of rape a "class act" is probably stretching it a bit.
Good thing no Yankees ever did anything like that.
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Exactly (wink) Clemns is THE class act of the MLB. Lmao.
Plus, how do you know no Yankee was ever accused of rape?
Way back when...the ballplayers got away with things all the time.
Also, it's not that hard to figure out the Yankees pretty much BOUGHT many of the WS titles. I mean, no salary cap = the team that can buy someone, does.
The teams like KC, Milwaukee etc. don't stand a chance.
Yuppers wrote:
Steelerfan4life wrote:The New England loyalty will always be Red Sox first.
Here's where you are wrong - it's Pats first, Red Sox second. There was a day when the Bruins were on top. Oh, and we loved the Celtics in the 80s.
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BULLSHIT!!!!!!
The Redsox rule Boston. I go there quite often.
Many people around Boston are fans of different NFL teams. But NO person north of CT. cheers for any MLB team other than the sawx.
Pat's first, that's hilarious.
Next you're gonna say Uconn fans attended basketball games before Calhoun and Aureima showed up.
Steelerfan4life wrote:
[quote]Yuppers wrote:
[quote]Steelerfan4life wrote:
Pat's first, that's hilarious.
Next you're gonna say Uconn fans attended basketball games before Calhoun and Aureima showed up.
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Hey, Let's remember there really was no womens team until the 80's. And, yes we really did not attend the men's games until Tate george made the shot. Oh, but what a shot it was.
As for the original debate. I agree with Steeler fans. They travel much better than the Patriot or any other NFL team, and yet they are from a lower economic income avg. area. Why is this?
The Rooney family is the class owner anywhere, I agree. The QB is an idiot, not the fans fault. I understand many in Pitt do not like hime as a person anyway.
good luck to both.
You're right, it goes like this:
1. Red Sox, winning or losing.
2. Whichever team is hot. Within that, it goes Celtics, Patriots, Bruins.
Bruins fans are the most hard-core, but there are not nearly as many as there are fans of other sports.
It is not true that there are no other fans north of CT, but I agree, there are FAR more Sox fans than any other.
For the guy who said Pats first, are you kidding? There are still a significant number of born and bred Giants fans in New England from when the Patriots either didn't exist or were still AFL, or just plain sucked for decades.
The Sox on the other hand made it to a whopping 4 WS in 80+ years (and lost them in painful fashion) but still were selling out routinely except when they really stunk.
As for the Yankees "buying" championships ... I hate to break it to you, that's how baseball works. Name a few teams that didn't buy it. Find me some teams that won on born and bred talent. Don't be a wuss. Baseball is a free-market sport (to a larger degree than the other major sports). This year's Giants were a huge exception.
Steelerfan4life wrote:
Steelers did it with a salary cap.
Their first four super bowls victories preceded the NFL salary cap.
johnnyb1610 wrote:
Green Bay Packers 12 wins
Chicago Bears 9 wins
Cleavland Browns 8 wins
New York Giants 7 wins
Pittsburgh Steelers only 6 wins
This is important to remember. The Steelers aren't even the greatest pro football franchise. Green Bay is. The Super Bowl is a fairly recent invention.
The Harlem Globetrotters win every game they play. They hire local ex-college White guys to wear the Washington Generals uniforms. MLB is the same arrangement. LA and NY have the 4 big money teams and the rest of the league are poor. Add to that the PED abuse and baseball is a fake sport. It's no wonder nobody watches it any more.
Monopolies wrote:
They hire local ex-college White guys to wear the Washington Generals uniforms. MLB is the same arrangement.
dumbass