like nerunner08 said, maybe you might want to attempt to move down to less shoe. You don't have to move down all the way to a racing flat... maybe for you just moving down to a moderate stability shoe will be better. Try moving down to the brooks ravenna or mizuno inspire for starters. If you like the feel of less shoe, progress to something like the DS trainer or NB 905 from there. Does your shin pain feel better when you run in your lighter shoes (ds trainer/mana)?
Cant stay healthy wrote:
Is it possible to hit those goals with 60-68 mile weeks, where I know i am safe?
You get stress fractures at 70 mpw, but you know you are safe at 68? WTF?!?!?!?!
That makes zero sense...there are way more factors than mileage, especially 2 miles a week. Runners can get stress fractures on 25 miles a week. It depends on your body, the surface, the type of miles, the progression towards the mileage, so many other factors.
I had my first stress fracture probably on 30-35 miles/week but it was my first real season of running. I've seen other high school runners get stress fractures on less than that. Obviously some other runners can run more than double that and be fine but everyone's body can handle different things.
Cant stay healthy wrote:
I take multi-vitamins and calcium additionally
Any help/suggestions?
Stop taking supplements and get your nutrients from food, most studies show that nutrients in isolation cause more problems than they solve. Stop drinking milk if you still do, and if you think that's crazy advice then try to find a study which shows that milk consumption increases bone density. Also check the osteoporosis rates of countries with the highest dairy consumption. Eat your greens and you'll be fine
nerunner08 -
The store was rated in the top 5 by the IRRA, and has been top 50 for numerous years now. Doesent matter though I put it in there that I worekd there to show it wasnt simply wrong shoes.
They watched me run numerous miles in the shoes, and knew my history of injures and trianing. I was in the Air Zoom Elites, which i had no problems in. However, nike ruined the shoes with the lunar system.
I weigh about 142, 6 ft tall, typical runners build. Within the past month or so i have begun weights for upper and lower inlcuding core. I tend to wear down the outside front portions of the shoes, which yes i know means i dont need the support. The front 1/3 of the shoe along the outter edge shows wear on all my shoes. Yes I know that means i supinate, and dont need the supprt, but am afraid to get away from the support due to knee issues in the past.
I have run in the Ravena which has felt alright as a lightweight trainer. I would defiinetly consider training in a pair of ds-trainers or the 905. Now that you said somthing bout it, my shin doesnt bother me as much when was racing or doing faster workouts. Idk if thats just because i am more efficent, or warmed up or adrenaline flowing, but it deffinetly didnt bother me as much when in the mana or ds-racer.
laughingostrich- It isnt the 2 mile differnce. But its the prolonged period of time at 70+. I have gone months at 60-68 mile weeks no problems. but it seems like when i move into that 70 range and try to maintian things start to break down, esp as I maintain for a few weeks, before coming down to recover.
I am going to a sports med clinic, and they are going to do a gain analyis of me now that I am able to start running again. Hopefully its a bio issue and can figure out what to do!
appreciate all the feedback
Cant Stay Healthy wrote:
nerunner08 -
The store was rated in the top 5 by the IRRA, and has been top 50 for numerous years now. Doesent matter though I put it in there that I worekd there to show it wasnt simply wrong shoes.
They watched me run numerous miles in the shoes, and knew my history of injures and trianing. I was in the Air Zoom Elites, which i had no problems in. However, nike ruined the shoes with the lunar system.
I weigh about 142, 6 ft tall, typical runners build. Within the past month or so i have begun weights for upper and lower inlcuding core. I tend to wear down the outside front portions of the shoes, which yes i know means i dont need the support. The front 1/3 of the shoe along the outter edge shows wear on all my shoes. Yes I know that means i supinate, and dont need the supprt, but am afraid to get away from the support due to knee issues in the past.
I have run in the Ravena which has felt alright as a lightweight trainer. I would defiinetly consider training in a pair of ds-trainers or the 905. Now that you said somthing bout it, my shin doesnt bother me as much when was racing or doing faster workouts. Idk if thats just because i am more efficent, or warmed up or adrenaline flowing, but it deffinetly didnt bother me as much when in the mana or ds-racer.
laughingostrich- It isnt the 2 mile differnce. But its the prolonged period of time at 70+. I have gone months at 60-68 mile weeks no problems. but it seems like when i move into that 70 range and try to maintian things start to break down, esp as I maintain for a few weeks, before coming down to recover.
I am going to a sports med clinic, and they are going to do a gain analyis of me now that I am able to start running again. Hopefully its a bio issue and can figure out what to do!
appreciate all the feedback
You used to train in the Nike Zoom Elites, go back to a similar shoe. Obviously the Lunarelite is inferior but any other lightweight stability shoe will work. I have had shin issues in the past and noticed that they come from too much of an "active" landing. If your foot is on a raised or overly soft platform it needs extra stabilization from your posterior/anterior tibialis muscles and tendons. Over time, they pull on the bone and start as shin splints and progress to stress fractures. The cause of the stress fracture here is not so much the pounding but the muscular stress pulling on the covering of the bone. Switching to a lower platform allows the foot to work more and relieves tibial stress that used to do a lot of stabilization. Are you getting these stress fractures along the inside of the tibia?
The foot strike the root problem here - causing too much stress on tibia. You need to relearn foot strike so you are landing mid-foot, not outside forefoot. I've known others with exact same issues.
Yes the stress fractures are along the inside of the tibia...i have had 2 on the lower part, this most recent is the upper.
Any drills ways to try to "relearn" foot strike...i have been going nice and easy on the treadmill and trying to force myself to more fluid with my strike...but dont want to over due it
...or just strengthen your calf muscles - there is actual science in that direction, vs old wives tales about shoes.