Sweet, I only need to shave 17 min off my 10K!
Sweet, I only need to shave 17 min off my 10K!
wejo wrote:
The 10k standard came down a lot (only 16 Americans have ever hit it) but in addition to Solinsky and Rupp, Tim Nelson and Bobby Curtis have it.
No they don't
Is there a standardized method for determining the qualifying standards?
i.e. is it based upon performances in 2010
I noticed the new mens 400m A = 45.25 B = 45.70
that makes it substantially harder for Oscar Pistorius.
he ran 46.02 at the end of the season in 2010.
the old B standard was 45.95 which seemed inevitable for 2011 barring injury
the old A standard was 45.55 which seemed do-able.
South Africa's top performances last year:
45.51 Ofentse Mogawane
46.03 Oscar Pistorius
46.08 Jacques de Swardt
46.09 Sibusiso Sishi
Ess Gee Ess wrote:
wejo wrote:The 10k standard came down a lot (only 16 Americans have ever hit it) but in addition to Solinsky and Rupp, Tim Nelson and Bobby Curtis have it.
No they don't
I'm not sure why you say they don't. All 4 of them run sub-27:40 at Stanford in May, 2010. The qualification window for the 10,000 started Jan. 1, 2010. I guess it is sort of odd that they're announcing what the actual standard is 11 months after the qualifying window opened.
Who do you think will make up the 5 for the marathon?
I'm pretty sure 7 runners ran under that time just in the USA Championships alone.
Top 2 Marathoners from US Championships
Reyes and Eggleston
And the next 3 fastest times from this list that accept.
USA Men
2:08:41 a ( 4) Ryan Hall (CA) 14 Oct 1982 19 Apr 2010 Boston MA USA
2:09:26 a ( 5) Mebrahtom Keflezighi (CA) 05 May 1975 19 Apr 2010 Boston MA USA
2:10:35 ( 7) Brett Gotcher (AZ) 01 Sep 1984 17 Jan 2010 Houston TX USA
2:11:06 ( 8) Jason Hartmann (OR) 21 Mar 1981 10 Oct 2010 Chicago IL USA
2:12:24 a ( 9) Jason Lehmkuhle (MN) 04 Oct 1977 19 Apr 2010 Boston MA USA
2:12:33 a ( 8) Dathan Ritzenhein (OR) 30 Dec 1982 07 Nov 2010 New York NY USA
2:13:47 a (12) Antonio Vega (MN) 07 Dec 1983 19 Apr 2010 Boston MA USA
2:14:27 (10) Mikhail Sayenko (WA) 12 Jul 1984 10 Oct 2010 Chicago IL USA
2:14:55 (11) Michael Morgan (MI) 20 Feb 1980 10 Oct 2010 Chicago IL USA
2:14:57 a (11) Jorge Torres (CO) 22 Aug 1980 07 Nov 2010 New York NY USA
2:15:06 a (13) Tim Nelson (OR) 27 Feb 1984 07 Nov 2010 New York NY USA
2:15:25 ( 3) Fernando Cabada (CO) 22 Apr 1982 03 Oct 2010 Saint Paul MN USA
2:15:34 ( 6) Maxwell King (OR) 24 Feb 1980 16 Oct 2010 Baltimore MD USA
2:15:49 (12) Lucas Humphrey (MI) 10 Apr 1981 10 Oct 2010 Chicago IL USA
2:15:50 (13) James Carney (CA) 24 May 1978 11 Apr 2010 Rotterdam NED
2:16:12 (13) Patrick Rizzo (IL) 25 Jul 1983 10 Oct 2010 Chicago IL USA
2:16:15 ( 4) David Jankowski (NC) 05 Aug 1986 03 Oct 2010 Saint Paul MN USA
2:16:31 ( 5) Drew Shackleton (CA) 21 Jan 1986 03 Oct 2010 Saint Paul MN USA
2:16:36 a (16) Drew Polley (MI) 01 Nov 1985 19 Apr 2010 Boston MA USA
2:16:46 ( 9) John Crews (NC) 08 Sep 1984 16 Oct 2010 Baltimore MD USA
2:16:47 ( 6) Michael Reneau (OR) 07 Apr 1978 03 Oct 2010 Saint Paul MN USA
2:16:52 ( 9) Joshua Ordway (OH) 11 Jun 1980 17 Jan 2010 Houston TX USA
2:16:54 (16) Justin Young (CO) 25 Jul 1979 18 Apr 2010 Wien AUT
2:16:58 ( 7) Mbarak Hussein (NM) 04 Apr 1965 03 Oct 2010 Saint Paul MN USA
asdefjh wrote:
Ess Gee Ess wrote:No they don't
I'm not sure why you say they don't. All 4 of them run sub-27:40 at Stanford in May, 2010. The qualification window for the 10,000 started Jan. 1, 2010. I guess it is sort of odd that they're announcing what the actual standard is 11 months after the qualifying window opened.
they announced the 10k and marathon and a few other events announced their qualifying standard a while ago.
2:13:47 a (12) Antonio Vega (MN) 07 Dec 1983 19 Apr 2010 Boston MA USA
2:14:27 (10) Mikhail Sayenko (WA) 12 Jul 1984 10 Oct 2010 Chicago IL USA
2:14:55 (11) Michael Morgan (MI) 20 Feb 1980 10 Oct 2010 Chicago IL USA
That is my guess.
Last year, there were only 4 performances at the time of USATF's and none were achiveed there that would qualify to Worlds (Huling, Torrence, Lagat, Lamong)
serious now wrote:
Last year, there were only 4 performances at the time of USATF's and none were achiveed there that would qualify to Worlds (Huling, Torrence, Lagat, Lamong)
Though the 10000m who ran well in 2010 are set for 2011.
The steeple is clearly the easiest for the men and women; if you can run a 13:25 5k and learn to hurdle, you should be able to run at leas close enough to the standard to give it a try. You have a half dozen guys in the NCAA capable of running 13:25. Guys like Centro, Dorian, Fernandez and Derrick who very little hope of making the WC team in their primary event, would have a good shot at making it in the steeple.
dsrunner has the day off wrote:
And the 100k road record is still standing, set in 90s.
But 3 US men went under 7:00 (Michael Wardian under 6:50) and another one at 7:01, winning silver at the World Cup. That's a big improvement over recent years.
asdefjh wrote:
I'm not sure why you say they don't. All 4 of them run sub-27:40 at Stanford in May, 2010. The qualification window for the 10,000 started Jan. 1, 2010. I guess it is sort of odd that they're announcing what the actual standard is 11 months after the qualifying window opened.
Yeah. My bad. I had the dates mixed up.
this is the number of americans who have the A or B standard in their event.
men
800
A-standard-5
b-standard-11
1500
A-5
B-11
5k
A-4
B-9
10k
A-4
B-4
marathon
only 1 standard-28
steeple
A-2
B7
women
800
A-5
B-12
1500
A-6
B-9
5k
A-6
B-7
10k
A-1
B-2
marathon
only 1 standard-44
steeple
A-3
B-3
Perhaps this could be old news to some, but it looks like there will be also be a shortened qualifying window for the 2010 Olympic Games too.
For the marathon. the window will open in January 2011.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/4368843/Rule-change-will-see-Smith-back-in-action
"But the IOC are about to announce a shortened qualifying window for the Games, which won't open until January and closes in May 2012."
Except in 10k and longer the qualifying window begins in 2011 so no US athlete has the mark. Who will have it by late June with no marks chasing. This is the issue. USATF needs to hear from everyone that we need a longer window to qualify. Nice to say we would have close to a full complement of qualified athletes by US nationals but thats living in dream world.
Women's Steeple is so week wrote:
if you're an American women and run 9:50's in the steeple that puts you on top. Most girls who run that don't even have a prayer at making the USATF national qualifying standard in any other distance event but the steeple.
All I have to say is USA Women's Steeple is WEEK.
Your spelling is WEAK.
Jan 2011 qualifying begins wrote:
Except in 10k and longer the qualifying window begins in 2011 so no US athlete has the mark. Who will have it by late June with no marks chasing. This is the issue. USATF needs to hear from everyone that we need a longer window to qualify. Nice to say we would have close to a full complement of qualified athletes by US nationals but thats living in dream world.
This is the specific issue and our "elites" outside the 10k should be terrified. I don't see us having even 3 in the 1500, steeple, or 5k by USA's! You either go to Australia for track season, 10k at Stanford, 5k at Mt Sac, 1500 at NY meet, or head to Europe BEFORE USA's. That was it for realistic chances last year!
When will John Chaplin (yes that is the fact) decide when Americans will have to either chase up to the IAAF-allowable window or have mark at the end of USAs? One would assume by the end of convention, but I highly doubt it.
Where are the spelling police? wrote:
Women's Steeple is so week wrote:if you're an American women and run 9:50's in the steeple that puts you on top. Most girls who run that don't even have a prayer at making the USATF national qualifying standard in any other distance event but the steeple.
All I have to say is USA Women's Steeple is WEEK.
Your spelling is WEAK.
UKRAINE IS WEAK!
Looking at last year's world list here are the number of people in the world that hit these standards:
5000m - 74
1500m - 37
800m - 27
Now the 5000 was mostly comprised of athletes from two countries and they can only send three each.