So there are 0 indoor tracks in entire state of Connecticut that will be open for community use this winter.

Actually, I think of all the things you listed, an indoor track during winter in Connecticut would be the highest on the list.

I could see getting away with not running on one if you're a marathoner or perhaps a 10k guy. However, running hard intervals in snow / ice / cold / on roads for shorter distance training is just ridiculous. Please, go run some 800-pace 200's in sub 20 degree weather and tell me how it goes. Let me offer you the name of a few good chiros and sports therapy guys first, though, cuz you will need them.

If you want to train at a high level during the winter (which can stretch for half a year up here in New England) you train indoors or you train somewhere where it's 60 degrees.

Maybe you're all about running slow and getting injured though. To each their own.

Ray L wrote:

Cross this thread with the problems in american distance running thread and you can easily see why we don't have anywhere near the depth we had in the 70's and 80's.

Correct me if I am wrong, but there did exist indoor tracks in the 70's and 80's (in fact most were of the small size - 11 laps to the mile), so not sure where your argument holds water...Lack of depth is due to other interests in this country, not due to indoor track, in my humble opinion.

Sorry sheep farmer I wasn't aware that there were people whose focus was running fast 800m indoors. Certainly not the high school kids, their focus should be a peak in June. The college kids have tracks to train on so they're out. I guess somewhere there's that post graduate middle distance guy. Yes, the tracks should all be opened to accomodate him.

By the way, I managed a 2:27 1000 indoors without ever stepping on a track prior that race.

I know one CT high school where the Coach spraypainted dots every 200meters on the high school parking lot. but otherwise it seems a bit ridiculous to me.

Ray L wrote:

Yes it is hard to understand. You know what I'd like? A heated indoor 50m pool, an altitude house, daily massage, a nutritionist, one of those machines that aids in blood flow out of the legs, cryotherapy units, a fully stocked weight room with both free weights and hammer strength equipment, new shoes every 200 miles, etc etc etc. You don't have those you make do. The problem is you don't really need any of those things to be successful. Low on the list would be an indoor track.

the answer is Oregon Elite TC.

I AM Fleetfoot wrote:

Wesylnn?? 200m

wesleyan seems to require alumni status just to get a membership

everythings locked up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exTxXkUvOc0

I'm a Wesleyan alumna. If you want to use the track, you can pretend to be my husband. It's $550 though.

everythings locked up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exTxXkUvOc0

There's a beautiful indoor track at Hillhouse High School in New Haven, funded by dumb state tax payers.

During the winter they have all comers meets or they used to it was in the evenings, good way to get in speed work outs. You could enter 4 events. The Swifts would show occasionally.

Patrick Beverley wrote:

I AM Fleetfoot wrote:

Wesylnn?? 200m

wesleyan seems to require alumni status just to get a membership

http://www.wesleyan.edu/athletics/deptinfo/facilities.html

Ray L wrote:

Sorry sheep farmer I wasn't aware that there were people whose focus was running fast 800m indoors. Certainly not the high school kids, their focus should be a peak in June. The college kids have tracks to train on so they're out. I guess somewhere there's that post graduate middle distance guy. Yes, the tracks should all be opened to accomodate him.

By the way, I managed a 2:27 1000 indoors without ever stepping on a track prior that race.

Are you suggesting that a 800/1500 guy who wants to peak in June should not touch on 800 race pace until spring? That's dumb.

Never said that. Not sure why you feel compelled to put words in my mouth....now that's really dumb.

High School kids can, if they run indoor track, get in plenty of races indoors and can get race pace stuff in practice in a number of ways. They do not need to be training on indoor tracks to be successful. I wouldn't expect the spoiled minds of the current high school stock nor a large number of coaches to understand the concept.

A lot of colleges in the Midwest have no indoor track to train on. It really isn't that big a deal for the most part.

The only group this should really matter for is college kids who go to school out of state and will be home for winter break. High school kids shouldn't be worried about indoor (and there's no need to be running 800m-pace workouts in the winter for a high schooler trying to peak in June), post-collegiates who matter can undoubtedly get on a track at one of the colleges, and hobby joggers don't need their workouts to be that precise.

I'm from Minnesota, ran all four years of high school and have gone home every year of college for winter break. I have done a grand total of two workouts on an indoor track in that state in my entire life.

I think the only group it would matter for it hurdlers. Indoors doesn't matter, so sprinters can just lift and distance runners can just do longer stuff outdoors. Hurdlers can't really hurdle anywhere besides a track, though.

honestly ray while you have a point you come off like an absolute jackass.

Ray L wrote:

Never said that. Not sure why you feel compelled to put words in my mouth....now that's really dumb.

High School kids can, if they run indoor track, get in plenty of races indoors and can get race pace stuff in practice in a number of ways. They do not need to be training on indoor tracks to be successful. I wouldn't expect the spoiled minds of the current high school stock nor a large number of coaches to understand the concept.

Please explain the number of ways to get race pace stuff in practice, because that was sheep farmer's entire objection - how do we do 200's at 800 pace in the snow and ice? Your response was - well, high school kids should just worry about peaking in June...which implies they need not worry about 200's at 800 race pace in January and February. So please, do tell.

Go to Costco when they open. You should be able to get in a few laps unencumbered.