VIPAM wrote:
Congratulations Nancy Lagat! So convicted drug cheat Dehiba is now some of the Letsrun posters heroine because she's white and uses drugs? That seems to be the vibe I'm getting from some of the posts.
Yeah, those blacks and other non-whites would never cheat, use drugs or engage in racist behavior.
Oh wait, they in fact engage in all of those behaviors more often than whites. And are more hypocritical about it. Or self deceptive.
[quote]Python wrote:
HGH and EPO, apparently
"In January 2007 Dehiba was arrested on Charles de Gaulle International Airport together with her coach and husband Fodil after vials containing human growth hormone were found in her luggage. Both were released, but Fodil Dehiba will be investigated for illegal drug trafficking.[2] In 2006 Dehiba was found guilty of EPO doping, and received an IAAF suspension from February 2007 to February 2009. "
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What happened to the Letsrun's theory that was etched in stone, "Once a cheater always a cheater" or does that just apply to athletes with dark skin? Letsrun moderators used to yell it out every chance they got and know they and the Letsrun posters are called out for what they really are- PATHEIC and RACIST! Supporting (overlooking her known drug ties) a known drug cheat just because she's not an African American sprinter or African distance runner! This site and especially MOST (not all) of the message board posters has just hit absolute rock bottom of all running sites!
I will overlook your attempt to troll. Good day Sir!
The fact of the matter when looking at the Contential Cup women's 1500m was it was accidental contact. Prior drug cheat Dehiba ran a great race and force Nancy Lagat to tire and fall. I know that Nancy Lagat still is the Olympic Champion and 2010 women's #1 1500m of the year...so she probably forgottent about the race. I now shall do the same as it was interesting today but shall be forgotten very soon!
IMHO. no way she did that on purpose. Ouch. Did she break a jaw bone?
Bernard Lagat is also a priod drug cheat, why do you always give him a pass?
after watching the video, it was no accident grabing Dehiba! She was very clever in her method to look innocent, but pics and video shows malice. Just glad she didn't injury the other runner doing that!
oh another comment.....after watching the video again, I missed second part of the video where Nancey tries to grab her leg!...did you see that? Not one attempt to pull her down but two!..wow! Way to servive Dehibal!
It was not intentional. Nancy Lagat's hand locked up onto Dehiba's by accident causing Nancy to lose stability. She holds onto Dehiba's hand to regain control of herself but she fails to reclaim control plunging herself to the ground.
Sorry "Daniel", but that looked very intentional. Langat brushes Dehiba a couple times in what looks like normal arm-pumping, then swings up hard and GRABS. The "upswing" was exagerrated, violent, and almost horizontal as she seems to be groping for a part of Dehiba to pull on. She does not start her actual fall til after Dehiba shakes her off. She falls to the ground as a result of being pulled off balance by Dehiba while she was holding onto her with her hand, as opposed to falling first then looking for a way to stay upright by holding onto Dehiba.
Not sure which video some of you guys are watching. Definite attempt to impede Dehiba, and Langat floated into her lane just as much as Dehiba floated into Lane 1.
BTW, I agree that traveling w/ EPO and HGH makes Dehiba the worst kind of drug cheat and shouldn't even be allowed to compete, but I don't think that justifies what Langat did today.
After watching the video a half dozen times and viewing the photos, Langat (1) merges closer to Dehiba Chahyd as she is being passed, (2) swings her right arm around Dehiba Chahyd's left arm and latches onto Dehiba Chahyd's elbow, and (3) falls and attempts a two-handed dive to grab Dehiba Chahyd's left leg. I have never seen a more blatant attempt to cheat from a runner with this much supporting video and photographic evidence. Langat should have been DQ's!!!
[quote]The Waterboy wrote:
she had all 8 lanes to run in yet was easily trying to share lane 1 on the home straight.
Can't let this one pass. Fine strategy: running in lane 8 on the homestretch.
You may want to get your eyes checked as well.
DRUG CHEAT Dehiba should have been disqualified as she purposely drifted into Nancy Lagat. Nancy fell and tried to keep her balance but had no malice in trying to pull the "cheating skeleton" Dehiba down with hostile intent.
Who really cares about this race as Dehiba will be caught once again implicating her with drugs before the 2012 Olympics and be banned for life!
Nancy Lagat won 11 of her 13 1500m races
Hind "drug cheat" Dehiba only won that one race all season
ANYONE Remember when
Hind Dehiba France 17 March 79
Age: 31 years 173 days
Height: 162 cm
Weight: 43 kg
Club/team: Ca Montreuil
Former nationality: MAR -> 20 Jul 2004
Doping offence: Test: IAAF OOC Testday: 23 Jan 2007
Substance: rh-EPO Punishment: 2 years ineligibility Ban start: 16.02.2007 Ban end: 15.02.2009
VIPAM and Waterboy, you are both completely wrong here.
Langat throws her arms wide when finishing but in this case she goes horizontal.
Also, every video I've seen of Langat finishing she stays fairly close to the middle of lane 1. In this case though she steps on the line separating lane one and two in order to push Dehiba wide.
Dehiba was not at fault in this race and while her past record might show against her, she won this race.
HIND DEHIBA shouldn't have been on the track racing anyway and it's clear that she clearly drifted towards and caused the contact with Nancy Lagat's wide arm carriage!
Dehiba is a convicted drug cheat and this was her last chance to win a race in 2010 and she did everything she could included interrupt Nancy Lagat stride.
Hind Dehiba France 17 March 79
Age: 31 years 173 days
Height: 162 cm
Weight: 43 kg
Club/team: Ca Montreuil
Former nationality: MAR -> 20 Jul 2004
Doping offence: Test: IAAF OOC Testday: 23 Jan 2007
Substance: rh-EPO Punishment: 2 years ineligibility Ban start: 16.02.2007 Ban end: 15.02.2009
LetsrunIsAJoke wrote:
What happened to the Letsrun's theory that was etched in stone, "Once a cheater always a cheater" or does that just apply to athletes with dark skin? Letsrun moderators used to yell it out every chance they got and know they and the Letsrun posters are called out for what they really are- PATHEIC and RACIST! Supporting (overlooking her known drug ties) a known drug cheat just because she's not an African American sprinter or African distance runner!
Indeed, it's pretty interesting to note this. I'm sure that none of us see ourselves as racist, but then why is it that every Gatlin result (to take one of many examples) is written up as "Drug cheat Justin Gatlin runs 10.xx" while there is not one word about Dehiba's doping conviction in the event report?
BTW, this was brutal cheating by Langat. Cheaters all around - hooray!
For the love of God! It's Langat, with and "n"!
And yes, it was obvious and deliberate. I really can't believe anyone sees it differently.
She is not Lagat wrote:
For the love of God! It's Langat, with and "n"!
And yes, it was obvious and deliberate. I really can't believe anyone sees it differently.
Agreed.
and Agreed.
She wraps her hand around the arm and yanks. How much more obvious can it be?
TrollsTrollin wrote:
HIND DEHIBA shouldn't have been on the track racing anyway and it's clear that she clearly drifted towards and caused the contact with Nancy Lagat's wide arm carriage!
Dehiba is a convicted drug cheat and this was her last chance to win a race in 2010 and she did everything she could included interrupt Nancy Lagat stride.
Hind Dehiba France 17 March 79
Age: 31 years 173 days
Height: 162 cm
Weight: 43 kg
Club/team: Ca Montreuil
Former nationality: MAR -> 20 Jul 2004
Doping offence: Test: IAAF OOC Testday: 23 Jan 2007
Substance: rh-EPO Punishment: 2 years ineligibility Ban start: 16.02.2007 Ban end: 15.02.2009
I agree she should not have been on the track, she is a drug cheat and one time conviction is enough for me. As for the sportsmanship or Langat though, all you have to do is look at the progression through the photos. Langats right foot is at first ~6 inches from the line, Dehiba's left foot stays in the same linear path the whole time. In the second photo Langat gets even closer to the line and in the third she is on the line. In the fifth and sixth photo you can see her lunge in the direction of lane 2, shes not falling into lane two shes propelling herself into that direction in an attempt to stop Dehiba.
http://a.imageshack.us/img294/6123/langat.pngq&a wrote:
TrollsTrollin wrote:HIND DEHIBA shouldn't have been on the track racing anyway and it's clear that she clearly drifted towards and caused the contact with Nancy Lagat's wide arm carriage!
Dehiba is a convicted drug cheat and this was her last chance to win a race in 2010 and she did everything she could included interrupt Nancy Lagat stride.
Hind Dehiba France 17 March 79
Age: 31 years 173 days
Height: 162 cm
Weight: 43 kg
Club/team: Ca Montreuil
Former nationality: MAR -> 20 Jul 2004
Doping offence: Test: IAAF OOC Testday: 23 Jan 2007
Substance: rh-EPO Punishment: 2 years ineligibility Ban start: 16.02.2007 Ban end: 15.02.2009
I agree she should not have been on the track, she is a drug cheat and one time conviction is enough for me. As for the sportsmanship or Langat though, all you have to do is look at the progression through the photos. Langats right foot is at first ~6 inches from the line, Dehiba's left foot stays in the same linear path the whole time. In the second photo Langat gets even closer to the line and in the third she is on the line. In the fifth and sixth photo you can see her lunge in the direction of lane 2, shes not falling into lane two shes propelling herself into that direction in an attempt to stop Dehiba.
http://a.imageshack.us/img294/6123/langat.png
dehiba's drug use is not the point. agreed that she shouldn't be on the track, but that's not the point. the point is that Langat deliberately grabbed her arm and pulled in an attempt to slow her down. watch the replays, look at the pictures. IT WAS DELIBERATE. dehiba held her line on the inside of lane 2, and langat moved out to her, hooked her arm, and pulled. the fact that she pulled such playground bullshit and wasn't dq'd is astonishing.
She is not Lagat wrote:
For the love of God! It's Langat, with and "n"!
And yes, it was obvious and deliberate. I really can't believe anyone sees it differently.
Actually her other name or former is Lagat(Jebet Lagat). That is her family name. Incidentally she married a Mr. Langat hence the name she commonly uses.
Judgement call on the non-dq (it's not automatic). While she grabbed Hind, it only affected her (she fell), no one else. Presumably there wasn't a protest, as she finished at the back of the field. As a final, no advancements were affected either. Strange circumstance, but becomes a "whatever" ... no reason for a long thread on the subject.
