Which current track WR will last the longest?

Sprint Geezer wrote:

I think it is safe to assume that there will always be something to dope with for which no current test exists, and that there will always be someone willing to dope.

With that in mind, which WR of the current crop do you think will be the last to fall?

I'm guessing FloJo's 10.49, because it was doped AND the wind gauge was faulty AND she ran an excellent race.

All women's records and men's records in the 400-800 m.

All women were doped to the heels and men in the 400-800 m don't have enough efficient doping stuffs that could influence performance in the same way like in shorter and longer distances.

I've always had a theory that doping effects women's performances to a relatively greater degree than men's, because of the differences in male and female hormones and physiology.

The IAAF is not only having a financial problem, they are having a credibility problem as well.

As a track fan, there is really nothing more exciting than watching a runner either breaking a world record or come very close to it. The IAAF is in the business of making excitement for the fans in the stands and those at home watching on TV....if there isn't a chance of a WR, then it takes only the real track buffs of the world to enjoy the event. When the world records are 20 years old, and no one is even close, the whole thing smacks of stupidity in the eyes of the general public. Maybe they should give the World Records a 20 year maximum life span, like the USPTO does on US Patents.

Ain't no mofo alive touching my records! Kenny B has had a few shots at it and got no where near. The boy can roll a decent 5 and 10k but when it comes to smashing 7 and a half laps at 58 pace he starts flapping like a girl and calls for mommy after 4 or 5 laps. Man up mofos.

Google Rudisha 800. It might happen this summer.

The mens 10k will last the longest because no one runs it anymore.

19.32

D'oh! I thought it was 2007!

Danny Komen wrote:

Ain't no mofo alive touching my records! Kenny B has had a few shots at it and got no where near. The boy can roll a decent 5 and 10k but when it comes to smashing 7 and a half laps at 58 pace he starts flapping like a girl and calls for mommy after 4 or 5 laps. Man up mofos.

What a tortoise soup did you use, Danny? I got some from my friend Jos, a clever mzungu, but they had to inject it into me. A strange soup. But I was flying like an eagle!

The 3000 and 5000 look pretty solid right now. And note how small the increments have been recently: the 5000 was only taken down 4 tenths by Geb from Komen, and then only 2 more seconds by Bekele. And forget about sub 12:40- only 10 individuals have ever managed sub 12:50, and that hasn't happened in 6 years.

Men's 1000m-run infrequently

Men's 2000m-run VERY infrequently & 4:46 WOW!

Men's 2-mile-same as above...Komen, 2 sub-4's back to back!

Men's 1-hour-same as above...Barriors & Geb in the last 20yrs+

Women's 800m-drug record, got close a few years back

Women's 3000m-chinese drug record, good luck

Women's Mile-Masterkova...hmmmm

Women's Marathon-2:15 is insane...wins trump over records for the women, just ask Shalane or Kara.....

Others for consideration:

Women's 1500-Kazakina or Chinese??, cannot remember-same anyway

Women's 10,000-getting close but already working on 20yrs old-Chinese again (or was that a lap short on that 29:45??)

Women's 400-Marita Koch-yea, right

Men's 400H-already mentioned

Distance Stats--

Only events that are consistently run!!

So if you had to pick only one, which would it be?

Czech guy--

If you had to pick one WR from among the men's or women's 400-800, which one would it be?

I think you need to look at some of the field events. They are so technical that it will take someone really special to break them.

For instance the Pole Vault is at 6.14, indoors its 6.15. The top guy in the world is Renaud Lavillenie and he is 13cm back. Thats a long way and you cant do it all in one year or two.

I think the mens shot record will only go down if a bear gets in the circle. Cantwell, Hoffa and Nelson have been on the top for a number of years and Cantwell, the youngest, will be 30 this year. He is throwing well but is still .75m behind Barnes WR.

Lastly the Jav record is out there. Zelezny is about 7 meters up on the two closest active guys now and they threw there best 4 or 5 years ago.

Some interesting things seem to be going on, not least of which is that many of the records, especially the women's, are here to stay.

It would be interesting, given that it is an off-year, to re-set all the WR's, and arbitrarily set 2010's best performances to world-record status. People seem to agree that there is less doping this year, something with which I tend to agree.

There would still be some pretty good times out there.

In another 100 years, the progression of WR's could be examined and again re-set, or not.

If they didn't really progress, there would be no need for re-setting. If they did progress significantly, they could be re-set to either the new standards of that year, or to encompass all past performances, including pre-2010, if they matched the pre-2010 levels.

I think it's fair--100 years is a LONG time. In the beginning there would be a disjunction, but from 2060-2110 (or maybe even earlier), the pre-2010 WR's would likely seem like ancient history, all but forgotten, from another era.

Men's Women's

100m 9.82 10.78

200m 19.56 21.98

400m 44.40 49.64

800m 1:41.51 1:57.34

1500m 3:29.27 3:57.65

3000m 7:31.68 8:28.41

3000mST 8:00.90 9:11.71

5000m 12:51.21 14:27.41

10000m 26:59.60 31:04.52

Marathon 2:04:48 2:22:00

100h 12.55

110h 12.89

400h 47.32 52.82

LJ 8.47 7.13

HJ 2.34 2.05

TJ 17.98 15.09

SP 22.41 20.95

DT 71.45 67.78

HT 80.59 78.30

PV 5.94 4.89

JT 90.37 68.89

Decathlon 8483

Heptathlon 6823

The relays would all be re-set too. No racewalking.

This seems like a rational place to start. Doubtless some of these performances will be surpassed within 2010.

1. Women's 100

2. Women's 200

3. Women's 400

4. Men's Mile

5. Men's 1500m

6. Men's High Jump

7. Men's Long Jump

8. Men's Triple

9. Women's Marathon

10. Women's Mile

Seriously though, no mention of that 8 ft high jump yet?

mens 10km 26:17.53

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2010/05/sub-27-10km-limit-exclusive-club.html

Dammit! As I was reading this thread, Sergey Bubka just kept coming to my mind.

Men's Pole Vault.

I think Steve Hooker has been the closest to either record over the past few years at 6.06 indoors. That was just last year in 2009, but he's been WAAAYYYYYY off that this year. Who knows if he'll regain form. Even if he does, I just don't see that 6.14 or 6.15 coming down for another 20 years...and they're already a pretty old records.

I don't think there's EVER been this much lack of consensus on any issue on this board.

It's a really tough question to answer.

You just want an American to have a distance "world record"

The 2 oldest men's records are Discus, 6 Jun 1986, and Hammer, 30 Aug 1986.

The 2 oldest women's records are 800m, 26 Jul 1983, and 400m, 6 Oct 1985 (and 2 relays, 4x800 from 1984, and 4x100 from 1985).