Kendra Schaff to UNC

It's not about education from her end. It is about finding a school that would actually allow her to run after being turned away by others.

Raymond in the Middle wrote:

If Kendra is looking for a good solid undergraduate education, either UNC or Oregon would have been excellent choices. She has been stuck at Washington, which is really a post-grad research school...horrible for undergrad education with huge class sizes and little emphasis on bachelor degree programs. UNC and Oregon are much more geared toward students looking for an undergrad degree.

yo disgusted calm down you dust

I wonder if the departure of Kelly Strong had anything to do with her decision?

silent pink wrote:

I wonder if the departure of Kelly Strong had anything to do with her decision?

Or the arrival of about five queen bees in this year's recruiting class? At some point you have too many queen bees and something is going to go crazy.

Raymond in the Middle wrote:

If Kendra is looking for a good solid undergraduate education, either UNC or Oregon would have been excellent choices. She has been stuck at Washington, which is really a post-grad research school...horrible for undergrad education with huge class sizes and little emphasis on bachelor degree programs. UNC and Oregon are much more geared toward students looking for an undergrad degree.

Andy Powell or should I call you an Oregon alumnus,

Please stop repeatedly posting flat-out lies about Oregon's education. Oregon is universally regarded as one of the worse public universities in the country.

Oregon is a bad school. UW is average. UNC is good.

I don't have the complete US News list in front of me but do know the following.

1) US News Ranks Oregon as the 115th best school in the National Universities category. Their US news score is 37Honestly, how many natioanl universities are there? 120? Oregon's acceptance rate is 85%. So if you have a GED, you are in. True story, I know a person who was told not to mention they had an Oregon masters degree on their resume as it would make them look bad.

2) Washington is ranked #42 and has a 61% acceptance rate. Nearly 1/2 don't get in. Their score is 59 according to US news.

3) UNC is ranked #28 and has an acceptance rate of 34%. 1 out of 3 don't get in. Their score is 70 which is almost twice that of Oregon.

And you really think that matters? Unless you're going to MIT or Caltech, no one really cares where you go for undergrad. The difference between UW and UO is unimportant. USNWR is petty little rag for obsessive parents trying to one up one another and for their little tyrant spawn. If you think the difference between #34 and #57 matter, you're horribly delusional. (or whatever. in any event, those rankings don't matter.) If your justification in thinking Oregon a bad school is USNWR, words fail me.

Guys,

I think we have to be careful to just to conclusions here without having any information beyond that she left washington and is enrolling at UNC.

Perhaps she did not get along with metcalf and wanted somewhere new?

Perhaps the UNC staff even told her come here, get healthy then we will worry about running.

a million different scenarios and if this girl is in fact struggling with some health related issues the last thing we should be doing is blowing her up on a message board and perhaps feeding even further into problems.

So lets focus on positives, hopefully Kendra has put herself in a position with solid support and a healthy environment where she can start fresh and have a great college experience both in running and in life.

how do you all "know" that U of O and U of W are "bad" schools? Did you attend all of them? I think not. Id like to know what amazing colleges you went to

Don't you have to know Kendra's major before you judge her the quality of her school?

And 2+2=4 at every school by the way.

According to the U.S. News and World Report 2010 College Rankings of National Universities.

University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill #28

University of Washington #42

University of Oregon #115

Keep pulling the wool over your eyes

a college coach wrote:

Guys,

I think we have to be careful to just to conclusions here without having any information beyond that she left washington and is enrolling at UNC.

Perhaps she did not get along with metcalf and wanted somewhere new?

Perhaps the UNC staff even told her come here, get healthy then we will worry about running.

a million different scenarios and if this girl is in fact struggling with some health related issues the last thing we should be doing is blowing her up on a message board and perhaps feeding even further into problems.

So lets focus on positives, hopefully Kendra has put herself in a position with solid support and a healthy environment where she can start fresh and have a great college experience both in running and in life.

lol you're really reaching to make a point...and i am pretty sure there are more than 120 universities in the US

While UDub and UNC are clearly ahead of Oregon, comparing the two is silly. Splitting hairs. UW would go further for you on the West Coast than UNC, and vice versa in the East. UW has one of the best med schools, and for undergrads a fantastic engineering program (Microsoft) but UNC is more selective. The rankings shift every year for no good reason other than to keep ppl watching, and it's backwards anyway - the student makes the most of the school, it's not the school that makes the student. Especially in undergrad.Performance and reputation generally come from grad school. Undergrad classes throughout the country the similar text books, which matters when a TA teaches the course, so material is often same. The rankings can be bogus sometimes too. The Notre Dame business school has been given a #1 or #2 ranking the last few years which sounds great on a resume and with recruiters (where it matters I guess) but it turns out the rankings don't count schools with no undergrad business degree...like HARVARD, with the top tier MBA program. For people who get it, hearing other people cite 'rankings' tells that they don't really get it, they need someone else to figure stuff out for them.Ultimately the rankings come down to intangibles. Can you really quantify the quality of the alumni network - one of the most important things there is? Does it matter more how an alum utilizes the network to their benefit? Would it matter how well the alum gets along with his fellow grads? If yes, then maybe a PacNW would be better of at UW, a southern belle better at UNC, and a Canadian under a Canadian coach. Arguing UNC>UW is splitting hairs.

Hey Bud wrote:

According to the U.S. News and World Report 2010 College Rankings of National Universities.

University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill #28

University of Washington #42

University of Oregon #115

We don't take KINDLY to folks who use logic and common sense around here.

Raymond in the Middle wrote:

If Kendra is looking for a good solid undergraduate education, either UNC or Oregon would have been excellent choices. She has been stuck at Washington, which is really a post-grad research school...horrible for undergrad education with huge class sizes and little emphasis on bachelor degree programs. UNC and Oregon are much more geared toward students looking for an undergrad degree.

Not sure if the words education, UNC and Oregon should be used in the same sentence; when you hear UNC the first thing that comes to mind is basketball, but acedemicaly it is equalvilent to a Villanova or Georgetown.

TrackCoach wrote:

acedemicaly it is equalvilent

Wat?

realist123 wrote:

3) UNC is ranked #28 and has an acceptance rate of 34%. 1 out of 3 don't get in. Their score is 70 which is almost twice that of Oregon.

Er, uh, an ACCEPTANCE rate of 34% would mean that 1 out of 3 DO get in.

Uh... You must have gone there, otherwise you wouldn't have said something that stupid. You probably think UNC is better than Cal too, huh? NOT. UNC is ok, at some things and not so OK at others like most universities... but certainly no better than UW which is a really good school. I was actually thinking she left and transferred to the south because UW is too tough. Maybe you should leave the south and see what the rest of the enlightened world has to offer. And I went to WSU not UW, so I have absolutely no stake in claiming UW is great, but come ON. UNC has basketball and............. right.

The University of Washington women's coach transferred to cal poly slo. That might be a big factor in why she transferred