All-Caucasian Basketball Team

Art Heyman wearing #25 would be my "so you want to play rough huh" guy.

Y'all raciss'.

Eugene the Careful Axe Weilder wrote:

First I'd hold a training camp and invite the following (assuming all players in their prime playing shape), then let them duke it out for spots on the 12- or 15-man roster:

G: Jerry West, Steve Nash, Bob Cousey, John Stockton, Pete Maravich, Drazen Petrovic, Bill Sharman, John Havlicek, Gail Goodrich, Brent Barry, Mark Price, Predrag Stojakovic, Manu Ginobili, Hidayet Turkoglu

F: Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Dirk Nowitzki, Tom Chambers, Pau Gasol, Chris Mullin, Bill Bradley, Jerry Lucas, Toni Kukoc, Dolph Schayes, Dave Debusschere, Rick Barry, Detlef Schrempf, Andrei Kirilenko

C: George Mikan, Jack Sikma, Arvydas Sabonis, Dave Cowens, Dan Issel, Bill Walton, Mark Eaton, Rik Smits, Vlade Divac, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, David Lee, Bill Laimbeer, Alvin Adams

I think the best team might be:

G: West, Nash, Stockton, Maravich, Price

F: Bird, McHale, Lucas, Barry, Nowitzki, Mullin, Bradley, Barry

C: Sabonis, Walton

No Bob Pettit, Paul Arizin, or Billy Cunningham?

Rignt, agree - I had Pettit on the list but somehow deleted him and a few others; when I added back the deleted names I omitted Pettit. I thought about Cunningham and, as mentioned in an earlier response, players like Gugliotta & Kiki Vanderweghe, but I completely overlooked Paul Arazin (although, at 6'4" he may not fit at either forward or guard).

Definitely invite Pettit to the try-out, probably Cunningham and Arazin, but I think Googs and Kiki simply don't make the cut at a very deep forward position.

I just realized I had Rick Barry on the team twice, so Pettit could slide onto the team instead, or perhaps a third Center (although McHale could play post if need be).

Brent Barry, Turkoglo, Kukoc, Kirilenko, Big Z, David Lee, and Laimbeer are definitely getting cut after the first 10 minutes of practice. They're fine players for their eras, but don't measure up historically, IMO.

What if a player is half black & half white? Doesn't qualify? Then the same rule would apply to an all-black team, does not qualify.

It's like everyone refers to President Obama, as the first black President of the US. Isn't he the first, half black and half white President of the US?

...so what do you have then, an all half-caucasion-half-black team?

Anyway, Nash, Bird, Stockton and Bill Murray for me.

Kirilenko is good, Turkoglo doesn't count though. Turkey is Arab

statistician wrote:

You may be able to get away with not counting Manu, since he's Latin American, not European, but I would think Pau counts. Unless you think he's Moorish.

Both the current and all-time teams are defensively challenged. Might I suggest the inclusion of Heinrich on the current team?

This ranks right up there with the dumbest things I've ever seen.

He's Latin American, not European? First off:

"Like many Argentines, Ginobili is a descendant of Italian immigrants."

Does moving to South America somehow make you less Caucasian? His freaking last name is "Ginobili," where did you think his ancestors were from, Bangladesh?

You "would think" Pau counts? Have you ever seen Gasol or Ginobili? What the hell race do you think they are? I doubt Gasol's "Moorish," but FYI Moors are Caucasian.

I don't care what his name is, the dude is from South America, automatic disqualification. And I don't care what color Pau looks like cause he doesn't see the sun, dudes from Spain..makes him Hispanic..means he checks the Hispanic box on surveys and not the Non-Hispanic box.

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filled with idiots wrote:

This ranks right up there with the dumbest things I've ever seen.

He's Latin American, not European? First off:

"Like many Argentines, Ginobili is a descendant of Italian immigrants."

Does moving to South America somehow make you less Caucasian? His freaking last name is "Ginobili," where did you think his ancestors were from, Bangladesh?

You "would think" Pau counts? Have you ever seen Gasol or Ginobili? What the hell race do you think they are? I doubt Gasol's "Moorish," but FYI Moors are Caucasian.

The historical situations in both Argentina and Spain are more complicated than you give them credit for. In the entirety of Latin America, European invaders/immigrants intermarried with local tribes. Just because Ginobili has an Italian last name doesn't mean that one of his grandparents doesn't have some native S. American blood.

The Moors who inhabited the Iberian peninsula for 800 years are not only N. African (ie Caucasian) in origin, but also share some West African and Arabian blood. Just like Ginobili, we don't know who Pau's great grandparents are.

You're correct that they both "look" white, but if that's the only qualification, then I nominate Jason Kidd for our PG.

statistician wrote:

You're correct that they both "look" white, but if that's the only qualification, then I nominate Jason Kidd for our PG.

Uhhh... what other qualifications do you have in mind?

Jason Kidd, Mike Bibby... don't count, and to be fair we can count Manu Ginobili, didnt realize he was Italian...question is would the all white-team beat the all African American team?

ahhh...Sabonis.

From what I'd read and seen on YouTube, if they got this guy to defect during the Soviet era he'd have basically turned the league on its head. What the NBA got was a pretty good yet injured version of an absolute beast.

Kevin Johnson at the guard spot (his mom is white).

Hedo would have to be eligible. Are not the Caucasus mountains located in Turkey? Throw in Yao Ming, George Muresan as the bigs, and David Robinson (plays classical piano, studied engineering, i.e. 'acts white.') What about Ronny Seikaly? Pretty dang swarthy if you ask me.

All-white team wouldn't beat the Lakers..sad day