CU to the Pac-10!

Pheromedical Shiamodo wrote:

It might not be as simple as "every sport decides on their own," but they certainly do not all have to be in the same conference. Ever heard of Johns Hopkins? They play in Division I in lacrosse and Division III in everything else, and their sports are in separate conferences too.

For divisions, up to two teams can be D1 and the rest D3. Once a third team for a school decides to go D1, then all the sports have to go up.

So after Colorado, I'm kind of hoping that Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State will follow?

I've heard rumors that the SEC is wooing Texas, but Texas wants to have a high academic standard or whatever (and probably an easier schedule), so the Pac 10 would make more sense, with the conference being split into 8 in the East (with the two Arizona schools) and 8 in the West. Also, if Texas follows, I'd think that A&M and Oklahoma would follow, and if Oklahoma goes, then Oklahoma State would follow as well. Just speculation though.

Hope to see December playoffs in the PAC16 since they have the toughest college football teams in the nation now.

Hollywood created the BCS joke. Now Hollywood fixes it by creating the PAC 16 with the most awesome football teams in the US all lumped into one conference. I hope they don't forget to invite the two time National Champion Boise State Broncos into the playoffs.

Again, just speculation, but I doubt it. When they were talking about making it the Pac 12 a few months back, Colorado was a top team, as was Utah, but other teams like BYU, Boise State, and Gonzaga were considered unlikely due to religious or academic reasons. Of course people can point to Washington State and Oregon State, but it makes sense that those schools are in the Pac 10. Plus it's one thing to have a few 'bad apples', it's another to continue to add them (though people on the west coast probably think higher of those two schools academically than they do of Oklahoma State and perhaps TT or T A&M).

The most awesome football teams are all in the SEC. None of these conferences can compete with the SEC, and this is why everyone wants to make mega conferences. Well, that and the huge money to come from these moves. Still, Bama and Florida will beat anyone from these Mega conferences

December FB wrote:

Hope to see December playoffs in the PAC16 since they have the toughest college football teams in the nation now.

Toughest right now? What? Even before USC got their 20 scholarships yanked and 2 years to no bowl games, the SEC is better.

Apparently, the PAC10 announced CU's arrival.

Boise might as well turn into a Div II program. They're in a small TV market and have no national following. The game has changed. Time to cut tail and run.

Whole giant conference things is getting stupid ESPECIALLY FOR FOOTBALL. Ok, we will play you EVERY OTHER YEAR....

Makes for a great rivalry...NOT.

Comparing pac-10 to big12

football: texas oklahoma and ok st arguably as good or better than usc, oregon, and cal etc.

basketball: kansas,kstate, texas, oklahoma, ok st, VERY comparable to UCLA, oregon, and Arizona. big 12's got way more teams than they deserved to the tournament this year.

in these sports cu going to this pac 10 probably won't make THAT much difference, though i think texas and ok are definitely better than the pac 10 in football. football and basketball are about money though.

XC and Track is pretty similar as well. Pac-10 has oregon,washington,stanford,and arizona, big 12 has ok state, colorado, and oklahoma all really tight in xc.

track, pac-10 is def weaker in the sprints, and such so CU will do better at pac-10 meets than big 12, but the distances will be nuts.

if the pac-16 superconference happens they might as well cancel prenats for xc and just have a pac-16 pre meet.

women:oregon,washington,stanford,texas tech, colorado,arizona !?!?! wow.

men: or,cu,stanford,az,asu,ok,okstate,and the texas teams. out of control!

"if the pac-16 superconference happens they might as well cancel prenats for xc and just have a pac-16 pre meet"

Just hope that they keep XC and T&F.

in the athletic departments every sport is a separate cost center and decides independently which conference they want to join if invited. most of the time they choose the same conference as football but that's their discretion.

every sport is a separate wrote:

in the athletic departments every sport is a separate cost center and decides independently which conference they want to join if invited. most of the time they choose the same conference as football but that's their discretion.

no you are totally wrong.

you flunk. the school decides what conference, only if the conference doesnt award a champion in that conference would the team chose what conference they are in.

Wrong. I still haven't seen one DI SCHOOL mentioned that has their major sports (basketball, baseball, football, xc, t&f, golf, women's volleyball, softball) in different conferences.

To be full fledged member of a conference, they must have a minimum # of participating sports. It's not a team by team decision. The earlier post about 3 teams moving up is correct but that is about levels of NCAA competition NOT lateral, conference moves within the same division of the NCAA.

All of the other smaller, niche sports (lacrosse, crew, hockey, men's volleyball, water polo) are all regional and they have a different system (ex. Alabama has a hockey team but not every SEC school has one so they are a member of a different hockey conference)

Examples of teams that SHOULD do as some have suggested but they CAN'T because that's not how it works in the BCS conferences. It's all or none in the major sports.

Northwestern basketball and football - no business in the Big 10. Period.

Vanderbilt football

Duke football

Oregon St. basketball

Penn St. basketball

Nebraska basketball

Baylor football (but that might be changing)

It's been open since before the NCAA was ever around. In academic, coaches demand the freedom to make their own choices. UCSB, Stanford, Penn State, USC, UCLA, etc. have their own league for Volleyball for instance. Go down the list and see the many odd conferences their are for schools.

This perhaps doesn't quite fit what you're looking for, but Villanova and Georgetown football play in the CAA and Patriot League while the rest of their sports are in the Big East.

I can't believe football is so much more popular than basketball that Colorado/Oklahoma/Oklahoma State athletics are more of a draw to a conference than Kansas. Kansas basketball is, historically, one of the five or ten best men's programs in the entire NCAA, any sport.

Either way, we still have to wait until the 2012...

Those schools in rural areas of the country get good TV audiences for their region but a small time on a national scale. The bottom line is that the PAC16 is not an attempt to level the uneven playing field of the BCS joke but rather a new strategy to dominate college sports by aggregating the Top 5 NCAA Athletic Departments in the USA into a football playoffs. Keep in mind that every school is out for themselves and could care less about anyone else. Each AD want to make a name for him/herself then move onto a better job that pays more money.