Not quite official yet, wait til tomorrow when Saint T.O. delivers the proclamation. Then, it will be "official".
Not quite official yet, wait til tomorrow when Saint T.O. delivers the proclamation. Then, it will be "official".
What Else wrote:
ncaa 3 baby private coach wrote:I hope it happens. The NCAA TF/CC Championships won't be funded as the Final Four/Bowl Sponsorships won't trickle down to olympic sports. Teams will be forced to stop flying all over the country chasing times if they are even allowed to survive at all.
Track will go back to the team sport atmosphere and spectatorship will soar.
It will save track and field as the death at it's current pace isn't too far off.
Ummm... what are you talking about? I'm from PA, and Penn State football pays for every other sport. The only reason their non revenue sports are fully funded is football. Plain and Simple. Why would a change in affiliation change anything in terms of where the money goes.
See the tidbit above about the superconferences breaking away from the NCAA after they form and creating their own division. When that happens, minimum requirement for varsity sports to be in NCAA D1 goes away. And thus so does every athletic department budget item that does not in some tangible way bolster football and basketball fortunes. Track and xc will survive almost exclusively at the mid-major level and down.
Red Glare wrote:
See the tidbit above about the superconferences breaking away from the NCAA after they form and creating their own division. When that happens, minimum requirement for varsity sports to be in NCAA D1 goes away. And thus so does every athletic department budget item that does not in some tangible way bolster football and basketball fortunes. Track and xc will survive almost exclusively at the mid-major level and down.
WRONG!!! W/o the requirement to carry T&F the schools with drop us ASAP. The only reason they carry us now is because they are forced to.
If XC and Track survive it will be out of the goodness of their hearts and Title IX (legally they will have to at least offer women's sports.)
LOL those programs will continue to be funded. you are retarded to think otherwise.
Red Glare wrote:
What Else wrote:Ummm... what are you talking about? I'm from PA, and Penn State football pays for every other sport. The only reason their non revenue sports are fully funded is football. Plain and Simple. Why would a change in affiliation change anything in terms of where the money goes.
See the tidbit above about the superconferences breaking away from the NCAA after they form and creating their own division. When that happens, minimum requirement for varsity sports to be in NCAA D1 goes away. And thus so does every athletic department budget item that does not in some tangible way bolster football and basketball fortunes. Track and xc will survive almost exclusively at the mid-major level and down.
You simply restated what I already said, goofball. The conferences that remain in the NCAA will continue to face the minimum requirement. Those that break away won't and thus will have basically no incentive to keep t&f and xc.
Archer wrote:
Red Glare wrote:See the tidbit above about the superconferences breaking away from the NCAA after they form and creating their own division. When that happens, minimum requirement for varsity sports to be in NCAA D1 goes away. And thus so does every athletic department budget item that does not in some tangible way bolster football and basketball fortunes. Track and xc will survive almost exclusively at the mid-major level and down.
WRONG!!! W/o the requirement to carry T&F the schools with drop us ASAP. The only reason they carry us now is because they are forced to.
If XC and Track survive it will be out of the goodness of their hearts and Title IX (legally they will have to at least offer women's sports.)
[quote]really?!?
LOL those programs will continue to be funded. you are retarded to think otherwise."
What on god's green earth makes you think that? You think these athletic departments exist in order to do anything but make money?
Nobody is going to withdraw from teh NCAA to form their own league. The tax implications would be huge.
Right, because all those powerful people in charge of all that money won't find similar ways to avoid "tax implications" outside of the NCAA umbrella.
How does OSU get mentioned with Stanford and USC?
read the ncaa champs website
Red Glare wrote:
See the tidbit above about the superconferences breaking away from the NCAA after they form and creating their own division. When that happens, minimum requirement for varsity sports to be in NCAA D1 goes away. And thus so does every athletic department budget item that does not in some tangible way bolster football and basketball fortunes. Track and xc will survive almost exclusively at the mid-major level and down.
Almost all those superconference schools currently fund more mens sports than the NCAA minimum requires. Not sure why they would suddenly drop sports if the minimum goes away, when there is nothing to stop them from doing that now.
The only way small sports would drop is if the big sports end up costing more money. If they increase the number of scholarships or start paying the athletes. They make so much money as it is that they have to find places to put it right now.
Im gald these other conferences will finally have a championship game AND some decent schools. Tired of some slow a$$ team from the Big 10 wanting to play of a national championship after they beat one of the two halfway decent teams in the conference.
I hope that's why TX lacks the b@lls to come to the SEC. I think that Steer has been canstrated.
What do you think spurted all of this nonsense. The Big Ten Network!! The Big Ten network currently gives every Big Ten school over twice what any other conference gives their members. When the Big Ten realized how much money they can make, they began to seek out other markets, ie Rutgers ala NYC, or Missouri ala KC or StLou. And of course the Pac-10 wants a piece of the pie now as well, so they're gonna acquire the rest of the Big 12. The Big Ten Networks nationally broadcasts every sport's Championship meet, including Indoor, Outdoor, and XC. They even broadcasted the Jesse Owens Invitational. I believe that this is a very good thing for Track. More network revenue that gets distributed to all sports, not just football. More exposure, a guy with a satellite in Puerto Rico can flip on the TV and happen upon a Michigan - OSU dual meet. The only real losers and they will lose! big time!, will be the current BCS schools that get left out. So Iowa State, Kansas, and K-State you better get on your knees and start making some phone calls.
Track won't Die wrote:
So Iowa State, Kansas, and K-State you better get on your knees and start making some phone calls.
And Missouri and Baylor, too.
Baylor will probably just jump in with Houston and Rice and be done with it. Where the hell do KU, KState, IaSt and Mizzou go? MVC?! MWC?!
The big schools know that the NCAA is holding them down. If Texas and USC decided that they wanted to leave the NCAA, no more NCAA rules to follow. They would make millions more in their athletics programs that the NCAA prevents them from making. These bigger schools have more power than you think. Without them, there is no NCAA. Say Florida, USC, Texas, Alabama, Oklahoma, Georgia, Oregon, UCLA, UNC all decided hey forget this lets leave, make our own league where we can play each other but not follow NCAA rules, pay these big time prospects to come here, do you really think no one would watch or care about these schools anymore? No, it would make them even MORE wealthy. It would also put an end to the monopoly that the NCAA has on college athletics. The NCAA is a corrupt entity, period. If there was another league that would form with the BIG schools currently in the NCAA, the NCAA would fold, their revenue streams would be gone and finally the big name athletes would receive some benefit to the use of their image and name, as opposed to the NCAA being hypocrits and exploiting these athletes. NCAA, you should be crapping your self right about now.
It's completely stupid to have Conferences this big for FOOTBALL.
You are only going to be able to play teams EVERY OTHER YEAR. IT COULD BE 4 YEARS before you actually play a team at HOME again...
Will the NIT rise from the dead?
truthknowledge wrote:
The big schools know that the NCAA is holding them down. If Texas and USC decided that they wanted to leave the NCAA, no more NCAA rules to follow. They would make millions more in their athletics programs that the NCAA prevents them from making. These bigger schools have more power than you think. Without them, there is no NCAA. Say Florida, USC, Texas, Alabama, Oklahoma, Georgia, Oregon, UCLA, UNC all decided hey forget this lets leave, make our own league where we can play each other but not follow NCAA rules, pay these big time prospects to come here, do you really think no one would watch or care about these schools anymore? No, it would make them even MORE wealthy. It would also put an end to the monopoly that the NCAA has on college athletics. The NCAA is a corrupt entity, period. If there was another league that would form with the BIG schools currently in the NCAA, the NCAA would fold, their revenue streams would be gone and finally the big name athletes would receive some benefit to the use of their image and name, as opposed to the NCAA being hypocrits and exploiting these athletes. NCAA, you should be crapping your self right about now.
I hope this happens. I'd like to see the NCAA brought down to their knees or better yet, dead on their back.
TEXAS and aggy in talks with big 10