Europeans call NFL for "pu$$ies"

You have got to be kidding me. I am an American and I can barely watch rugby or australian rules football because it is so freakin' violent. Those guys are huge brutes that smash into one another with no pads. Not to mention that they are in phenomenal shape to be able to run up and down the field without breaks every 30s carrying 200lbs+ around. So yes, American's look like huge pussies with all the pads compared to professional rugby players.

I lived in England for a little while one guy told me he thought watching American football was hilarious because they looked like a bunch of extra's from a Sci-fi flick with all their spacesuits on. Ruined the game for me for a little while.

If you took an NFL team, gave them 6 months of rugby training and put them out on a field with some team from Europe, the Europeans would most likely be at half strength towards the end of the match. If you think that Ray Lewis, Shawn Merriman, Rodney Harrison etc are scary with pads, they would be truly horrifying without pads.

so if you took an European Rugby team and gave them 6 months of NFL training, they wouldnt get any better?

and i'd like to see ray lewis punt a rugby ball through some goal post during a match

Ignore the awful music, but I stand by my assessment that NFL players would abuse the rugby guys.

whoot wrote:

A lot of american football players could train and be amazing at rugby, the best rugby player could train all he wanted but still be crap at american football

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That's exactly what I was saying.

I mean, the unbelievable speed that some of these guys hit with.

I never see that in a rugby game. They don't run full speed at someone when they hit them.

Sure, they don't take as many breaks, and the NFL is more specialized.

Bottom line is; A typical NFL linebacker, defensive end or even a fullback, or tight end, could go over there an excel.

I don't see it the other way around at all. Not even close.

Not by a long shot.

coach d wrote:

You know what kids in the US who aren't fast enough, big enough, strong enough for football do, don't you? They play soccer and cross country.

BTW, go to the UK sometime and visit a few pubs. What you'll see are signs that say something like "No Football Coaches." If you're a soccer fan, they basically don't want to let you in. Over there, soccer (fans particularly) is seen as crude, boorish, and low class. The high class game is rugby.

On whatever level appeals to you, soccer is for losers.

Your wrong

NFL only play 15 secs at a time then they leave the game. They wouldn\'t last 5 mins in Rugby. Like Sumo you are pulling and pushing on dead weight trying to move a mountain. Rugby is too gruesome for softy \"everybody gets a medal\" Americans.

There is no comparison between Rugby and American football. I have played both and the difference is the speed of the collisions.

By the end of a single play in American football just about every player has run full speed into another person running full speed into them.

It is brutal. If Any rugby player thinks the NFL is soft buy/borrow some pads and get the biggest fastest guy you know and run full speed into each other. then repeat that 50 times and you will respect football. It is literally scary. That is wat practice consists of. Dudes running full speed into each other.

Wy do you think te average NFL player lives to be like 49.

o.O wrote:

coach d wrote:

You know what kids in the US who aren't fast enough, big enough, strong enough for football do, don't you? They play soccer and cross country.

BTW, go to the UK sometime and visit a few pubs. What you'll see are signs that say something like "No Football Coaches." If you're a soccer fan, they basically don't want to let you in. Over there, soccer (fans particularly) is seen as crude, boorish, and low class. The high class game is rugby.

On whatever level appeals to you, soccer is for losers.

Your wrong

He is dead right.

Can anyone find decent comparative studies on injury rates in the two sports?

And if NFL is provably more dangerous/violent/likely-to-cripple-you, does that make it the winner or the loser?

That's true. Rugby is 10 times harder on the body than US football. There's no comparison.

Problem is that the NFLers would be DEAD tired after 10 minutes of a rugby match. They would hurt some people for about 5min and then need O2 masks or be done for the day even if you game them some time to "get in shape". They are trained to sprint, hit, rest, and repeat. They are all sprint/power. Sheer size and strength does not make a great rugby player.

I watch football because I grew up doing it, but I have to give advantage to rugby in terms of toughness/impressive athleticism. Not to mention, I accept that everyone in the NFL is on 'roids. Different game.

fdgfgfd wrote:

there's actually a scheme involved in american football, there's signals, tactics, drills. And they are great athletes.

how many pathetic white rugby players are 6ft 4 225lbs and can run a 40yrd dash in 4.35 seconds?

football isn't about just hard hitting, its about athleticism and tactics.

rugby is just a bunch of big oafs running around hitting each other.

if you just want to see people attack each other then watch UFC or boxing.

spot on. its a sport, the goal is to score points.

The number of guys that get paralysed from the neck down due to incorrect scrummaging technique is pretty scary. Boxing is potentially more brutal than both of them though.

ufc is a fake tv show. cycling, ufc and nfl is full of roid boys. rugby would wipe out any fb team. fb just doesn\'t train for the strength and the stamina to play rugby.

i agree boxing is crazy. like slamming your bare skull into a k-rail. there\'s no protection from those skinny gloves.

JohnnyO wrote:

I agree. I don't even believe the outcome anymore - pretty much all of the major league sports results are contrived now. It's all fake from start to finish. I can't believe it's come to that, but it has.

Much truth in what you say. The 'composition' of NFL, NBA and increasingly MLB teams is contrived for the most part. Part of the social programming going on in the US over the last 45 years since the red-daiper grandkids (the world's biggest hypocrites) took over. Just look at the actual results from the NFL combine(s) and tryouts vs who gets drafted or signed. Officials have a lot to do with the outcomes of games. Seattle vs Pittsburgh a few years back in the Superbowl was laughable in how fake it all was, in terms of officials ensuring the proper outcome. The NBA is even worse in some respects.

As far as Europeans go, they have a point in way, yet their inferiority complex shows in another. Most of them would never want to put on pads and have Urlacher or Willis chase them full tilt. They'd shit their panties. Most Europeans have no idea how big most NFL players are at most positions. I suspect if a lot of E. Europeans had interest and an organized 'league', they'd produce linemen and linebackers that would make 95% of current NFL players, especially defensive players, look like schoolgirls in terms of strength and power, never mind other areas.

the goal of american football is is score points not to bash and injure your opponents brains in. and injury or hard hit is a result of trying to score points>hard tackling to bring your openent down or sacking the QB in the pocket is an act aimed at trying to prevent your opponent from scoring points.

in America we value athleticism and skill in sports ahead of brute strength. if this wasn't the case, kickboxing would be the most popular sport, but it isn't.

hold up wrote:

so if you took an European Rugby team and gave them 6 months of NFL training, they wouldnt get any better?

and i'd like to see ray lewis punt a rugby ball through some goal post during a match

Ray Lewis was overrated. The league went into high-gear pushing him as an all-timer after he got off for murder (for which he should have been put in prison forever). He's nothing but a roid bloated animal.