2:05.52 The Greatest Marathon Ever Run?

gfgdg wrote:

a lot of pros have run PRs at Boston, so why should this be the greatest Marathon run ever when its not even within 2 minutes of the world record?

Someone must need to learn how to count. The WR is 2:03.59, this time is within 2 mins of the Boston win today. A 2:05 at Boston is by FAR the hardest 2:05 ever run on any other marathon course in the world. Today's run was amazing to watch, and was by far one of the top 3 marathons ever run in terms of performance. Also, need I remind some, that Sammy was not in the lead front pack @ 10k in Beijing.

cross wind for much of the race but a tail wind up heart break hill

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Hardest course ever??!!! Try running the Connemara marathon in Ireland. Brutal hills

Bill Peterson wrote:

Today's run was amazing to watch, and was by far one of the top 3 marathons ever run in terms of performance.

I beg to differ. We're supposed to believe some guy most of us have never heard of is all of a sudden running a top 3 marathon performance ever?

So where does that put Kebede who finished 2nd and most of us had never heard of before? Top 20 all time?

What about Meb? He went for it, blew up at the end, and still ran 2:09 while not being 100% healthy. Should we subtract 2 minutes from his time and say he ran a 2:07 while blowing up at the end?

The weather was perfect, the wind was beneficial and boom you get fast times.

An impressive performance but definitely not top 3 of all-time.

no.

he needs to race the best of his time. wanjiru and gebresailasse (spelled wrong of course)

No Way wrote:

I think Boston was harder than New York personally, but you're right, its not even close to the hardest road marathon.

There are some that are designed to be difficult to finish.

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Not a major, but as many American marathoners have discovered, the Yonkers (NY) marathon is by far the hardest course. The course record still stands from the 70's, and no one wants to even attempt to break it (2:20)

Bill Peterson wrote:

Also, need I remind some, that Sammy was not in the lead front pack @ 10k in Beijing.

Want to think about that some more, idiot?

Intermediate

Position Bib Athlete Country Mark

1 José Manuel Martínez ESP 29:25

2 Deriba Merga ETH 29:25

3 Martin Lel KEN 29:25

4 Yared Asmerom ERI 29:25

5 Yonas Kifle ERI 29:26

6 Jaouad Gharib MAR 29:26

7 Luke Kibet KEN 29:26

8 Samuel Kamau Wanjiru KEN 29:26

yyy wrote:

a significant tailwind today. Not really a course record.

Since it is a point-to-point course course records don't make sense.

It was a significant HEADWIND, not a tailwind.

Boston is difficult, but not hard. There's a difference.

In Boston you have a very small margin for error and most people require a couple of tries to be able to run a good race on the course. But if you hit it right and run intelligently, you absolutely can run as fast a time in Boston as you can in Berlin or Chicago. It's a net-downhill after all.

A hard course, in my opinion, is one where even the most perfectly executed race is going to be slower than a flat course. Like San Francisco or Portland or Barcelona. No way Geb or Wanjiru or Cheruiyot could ever run a 2:06 on the SFM course despite it being net-zero elevation gain.

The wind did not help. Yes there was a tail wind but there was also a cross wind and a head wind as well.

Bill Peterson wrote:

gfgdg wrote:

a lot of pros have run PRs at Boston, so why should this be the greatest Marathon run ever when its not even within 2 minutes of the world record?

Someone must need to learn how to count. The WR is 2:03.59, this time is within 2 mins of the Boston win today. A 2:05 at Boston is by FAR the hardest 2:05 ever run on any other marathon course in the world. Today's run was amazing to watch, and was by far one of the top 3 marathons ever run in terms of performance. Also, need I remind some, that Sammy was not in the lead front pack @ 10k in Beijing.

So what do you think about 1:01:58/1:01:04 splits on the Boston course??????

Wanjiru ftw. from the gunn he said peace and just bolted. gusty, here is a sick interview with some of his friends about the race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drk4emkXC3A