Joe Newton wants in on the action. To see if he can get any of his guys who ran prs at 17-18 to actually improve into their mid 20s.
Joe Newton wants in on the action. To see if he can get any of his guys who ran prs at 17-18 to actually improve into their mid 20s.
the short green line wrote:
Joe Newton wants in on the action. To see if he can get any of his guys who ran prs at 17-18 to actually improve into their mid 20s.
As an outsider with no particular axe to grind, I can say that I find this kind of "humorous" gibe tiresome.
I would bet that JN has more alumni running at the college/post-college level than perhaps any other high school coach--if only because he *has* more alumni than perhaps any other coach--and I'd bet that, if only at random, some would run faster with greater physical matuity.
Good luck with sorting that one out, though: I'm told that something less than 1% of all high school runners continue running/training competitively into their "mid 20s."
I've never been as successful, at anything I do, as JN seems to be at what he does, but I don't resent him for it. It's sad that so many people do...
Ok the joke should have been something like "Jim Ryun switches to Mihaly Igloi since he wasn't getting enough intervals under Timmons". I wish I still had my copy of the Jim Ryun story but I remember there being some very high volume interval workouts (thing like 12x800 and the like)I know Timmons gets a lot of shit on this board, but that is true of any successful coach especially in HS.
erhs wrote:
a wrote:You know this is fake because thereis no way Timmons would have anyone do steady state running. Now if he said 15 miles of intervals, I would say that is a classic timmons workout.
Well, of course it's fake; but Timmy certainly had athletes do steady-state running at various times of the year. Ryun averaged well over 100mpw for longish stretches of time, and a majority of that mileage was steady running.
Granting that you were just joking...
a wrote:
I know Timmons gets a lot of shit on this board, but that is true of any successful coach especially in HS.
Yes. Timmons was a great high school coach. Even greater than Joe Newton.
Dominique Severin wrote:
Why wouldn't Ryun go after the world age-group record? He did it at 15.
You knucklehead. Ryun didn't run track as a high school freshman. His first world age group record was in 11th grade, when he ran 3:59.0 at a meet in Wichita.
15 and more - 20 mile runs on occasion.
I am pretty sure his sophmore time was a record also. Pretty sick to think of going from 5:30 or so to sub 4:10 in 8 months.
Mal-a-mo wrote:
Dominique Severin wrote:Why wouldn't Ryun go after the world age-group record? He did it at 15.
You knucklehead. Ryun didn't run track as a high school freshman. His first world age group record was in 11th grade, when he ran 3:59.0 at a meet in Wichita.
The 3:59.0 was in Compton.
Snell has already broken the 4 minute barrier.
It just wasn't for the mile.