Global Warming = A JOKE!!

ALL of you who do not believe that global warming is actually happening are fools. It is happening, and from someone who has been studying this trend for the last two decades, let me say that it is because of people who refuse to change their ways that this planet is nearing its end. The fact that the snow in Virginia is falling heavier and in greater concentration is a sign (one of many) that global warming is happening. It is a common misconception that global warming is only shown in a rise in temperature. In fact that is quite the opposite. Global warming creates extremes in temperatures and extremes in weather storms. IT IS NOT SIMPLY A MATTER OF HEAT. Please do yourselves a favor and read some of the research behind this.

On another note, what would Al Gore stand to gain by lying about all of this? Do you really think that all the scientists and climatologists who are on board with him and helped to find this research would be lying?

Please find time to educate yourself.

Again, record snow for Richmond, VA was in 1940. Your logic makes no sense.

I heard it was hot today in Australia.

Non believers beware... wrote:

On another note, what would Al Gore stand to gain by lying about all of this? Do you really think that all the scientists and climatologists who are on board with him and helped to find this research would be lying?

They're not lying, they just have a bad orientation to reality. The ecology movement is motivated by hatred for industry, technology and wealth. Al Gore's motivation, like all politicians' is to 'find' problems to 'fix.'

just saying wrote:

riley stops wrote:

It gets people that believe in global warming all worked up. It's like posting a thread that Jesus and God are myths and that Christianity is a shame. No matter what you believe, threads like this are a waste of time.

What I find funny is that people call it "believing" in global warming. I don't BELIEVE that the world is round, I KNOW it to be true based on scientific evidence. I don't BELIEVE in evolution, I KNOW it to be true based on scientific evidence. The same holds for global warming. Based on available scientific evidence, temperatures are rising. Sure, the world does cycle through hot and cold spells, but the millions of tons of greenhouse gases we have pumped into the atmosphere aren't helping.

You are an idiot. Yes you do BELIEVE. You can't KNOW for certain if evolution is true or if global warming is real. The world is round? I'll give you that one, but you just can't know for certain, so stop claiming all this stuff to be out of the realm of question.

The ecology movement

"Ecology movement"????????? Expand on this. I want to know how the study of interactions between organisms and their environments is a "movement."

Not disputing the rest of your post, but surely you know that Al Gore stands to gain quite a bit from all of this, right? He owns or is the director of more than one environmentally oriented venture capital firm/hedge fund. If cap and trade became reality I am sure Al Gore would make quite a bit from it. Doesn't make him wrong, but you're not going to help your argument by pretending that he's a saint doing it solely for the love of mother Earth.

Amercian Geophysical Union (AGU0 is the largest association of earth and planetary scientists.

The AGU recently reiterated their stance on global warming following climate-gate:

"The Earth's climate is now clearly out of balance and is warming. Many components of the climate system--including the temperatures of the atmosphere, land and ocean, the extent of sea ice and mountain glaciers, the sea level, the distribution of precipitation, and the length of seasons--are now changing at rates and in patterns that are not natural and are best explained by the increased atmospheric abundances of greenhouse gases and aerosols generated by human activity during the 20th century".

uhh wrote:

say huh wrote:

Don't they float?

Yes, in fact, they do float. Does this guy think that they really build a structure two miles down (in some cases) to the sea floor?

No--is the answer.

Sorry, but there are platforms (see Hibernia platform and others) that are anchored directly onto the seabed. Nice try, though.

As someone who has studied this trend for two decades can you answer this - what would happen to the climate if man completely stopped emitting CO2 right now?

Ph.D Candidate Engineering wrote:

The Earth's climate is now clearly out of balance...

When has the earth's climate every reached a state of "balance"? There has never been a time in the past when the climate wasn't changing. What's the correct temperature for the earth?

(1) I don't have an opinion on whether or not global warming is happening. I'm not a scientist, so I don't know the facts. I'm fairly sure that the climate is changing, because from what I know of history and geology etc it has always changed. (This winter has been very cold, but speaking to my 86 year old grandmother this weekend, she remembers much colder ones and also much warmer ones back in the day.) I expect the climate will always change. Maybe one day we'll get another ice age again and there will be polar bears in central London.

(2) I expect humans do have some influence on climate change, along with animals. Everything influences everything, action and reaction are equal and opposite, it's what Newton says, it's what the chaos theory says, it's SCIENCE. It must be true. Humans have always influenced the climate.

(3) Even if it's true that humans are a significant cause of climate change (like maybe bigger than 50 or 100 years ago) it might not be true that the climate change caused by humans is bad. (Why does nobody ever make this point?) Maybe we're making the climate better than how it would have been without us. Think about it - how should the world's climate be ideally? What is the best possible climate for the world? Don't say the one we would get without humans, because that might be an ice age or some shit. I'd like it if we could change Britain's climate and make it a bit warmer and for there to be more sunshine. I think they should try to make it rain more on deserts too and not have floods in places like Bangladesh. Other people will have different views maybe. I don't know why I've not heard this be debated.

(4) Even if it's true that we're making the climate worse, that still doesn't mean that we should stop changing the climate. It might be the case that the cost of stopping changing the climate is much much higher than the cost of changing it. We'd need to do a sort of balancing act to weigh up which is worse: political decisions would need to be made, which scientists and climatologists can't make alone. If there is an economic cost to reducing carbon which makes the world poorer (and, for example, means more African women die in childbirth than need to) then that needs to be considered. I don't hear this being debated much either.

I just hear (1) and (2) being debated. It just seems to be half of the debate to me. (1_ The climate is changing? Big deal. (2) Humans are a cause of it? Big f*cking deal. You also need to show me (3) that the climate change caused by humans is bad. And (4) that less harm would be caused by altering our behaviour than not altering it.

That's one of the most reasonable posts I've ever seen on climate change. I think your 4th point is the most crucial.

What caused the Bering Land Bridge to disappear? What happened to the Ice Age? Too many wooly mammoths passing greenhouse gases? Really... where'd the glaciers go?

Blowing.Rock Master wrote:

That's one of the most reasonable posts I've ever seen on climate change. I think your 4th point is the most crucial.

Thanks dude! I'm thinking of looking into this a bit more closely in fact!

India pulled out of the talks on a climate control/greenhouse gas emissions treaty because they no longer found the science credible in light of the mistakes over the Himalayan glaciers and the leaked British e-mails.

bull shit!! the pacific coast in canada has had one of the biggest years ever for the amount of snow fall!! in November Whistler had over 200inches of snowfall! and that is where all the snow sport events will be held!! SMD!!! mofos!

wyoming running man wrote:

bull shit!! the pacific coast in canada has had one of the biggest years ever for the amount of snow fall!! in November Whistler had over 200inches of snowfall! and that is where all the snow sport events will be held!! SMD!!! mofos!

Well, you may want to look into that. They are in fact trucking in snow because they have had the least amount of snow since the 1930s.

Here are a few links to help you outhttp://blog.mpora.com/mpora-news/no-snow-vancouver-winter-olympics.htmlhttp://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/01/20/bc-cypress-mountain-no-snow.htmlhttp://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/snow-2010-winter-olympics-vancouver-british-columbia/story?id=9762897

wyoming running man wrote:

bull shit!! the pacific coast in canada has had one of the biggest years ever for the amount of snow fall!! in November Whistler had over 200inches of snowfall! and that is where all the snow sport events will be held!! SMD!!! mofos!