just another guy wrote:
When I was running at the University of Virginia we had a guy on our team, Greg McMurtry, that ran a 3:57 when he was weighing 245. He was scary looking when he ran.
What a Crock, I was at that race and Ditka ran him down and tackled him from behind before he finished the race, never did finish. Ditka still won in a time of 3:59.99
Come On Tony wrote:
Tony Soprano wrote:
Chris Solinsky, 181 and 3:57 miler
What is your source for such a high number?
A quick search for a site more authoritative than your post yielded the USTAF website, which lists him as 6'1" 165 lbs. I've never weighed the guy, but his size is a typical one and rather easy to gauge from pictures. He could be somewhat less than 165, but 181 is like saying that he's also seven feet tall. He's plainly not.
That on 165 figure is BS, as is Alan Webb's 145 figure. I've been 165, currently 160, at 5'11" and never been anywhere near as big as Solinsky.
3200guy wrote:
muddy buddy wrote:
Solinsky is not a pound over 160.
McMullen COULD have broken 4:00 at over 200 when he was transitioning from football to track in college, but probably was more like 180 when he actually put the spikes on and did it.
13:58 is healthy, but 4:00 is more like a 13:50-52
An American guy on Flotrack did it this summer, he was 175-ish (and about 6'4")
13:58 for a 190 lb guy is definitely more impressive than a 3:59 mile. Everyone knows big guys have capability to run fast in the sprints but endurance to keep 4:30 mile for 3.1 miles is mightily impressive. Hesch is a freak of nature.
Big deal - Hesch was a doper!
https://www.runnersworld.com/races-places/a20838889/christian-hesch-gets-two-year-doping-ban/3200guy wrote:
Anyone know who it is and what weight 'cause I don't?
Eric Henry from Arkansas in the early 90's?
Blowing.Rock Master wrote:
Can't find any verification now, but Paul McMullen broke 4:00 when he was 180 or over.
I can't find verification now either, but pretty sure this is accurate.
He played football in high school, but turned to cross country when he ran at Eastern Michigan University. in the early 1990s.
I live about a mile from Eastern and less from than a mile from when he lived after he graduated. I used to see him out and about quite often.
(Useless) side note; he has two children from his first marriage to Jill McMullen. Those kids have great genetics. Jill was a 2:08 800 meter runner and I remember watching her run and win her first 5k race one year before the Detroit Free Press Marathon (1994??) in like near 17:00 flat. That doesn't sound all that great, but my understanding was she did that on like near zero 5k training, My gosh, what super smooth runner. Paul was more a bull.
His kids would be about 8 and 13 now - I can only image what they could develop into someday.
3200guy wrote:
Anyone know who it is and what weight 'cause I don't?
This thread makes my Achilles hurt so bad...
One should try to be optimally massed for performance, not heavy as possible..
Ignore this advice at your own peril and pain later...
Not Done Just Yet wrote:
Blowing.Rock Master wrote:
Can't find any verification now, but Paul McMullen broke 4:00 when he was 180 or over.
I can't find verification now either, but pretty sure this is accurate.
He played football in high school, but turned to cross country when he ran at Eastern Michigan University. in the early 1990s.
I live about a mile from Eastern and less from than a mile from when he lived after he graduated. I used to see him out and about quite often.
(Useless) side note; he has two children from his first marriage to Jill McMullen. Those kids have great genetics. Jill was a 2:08 800 meter runner and I remember watching her run and win her first 5k race one year before the Detroit Free Press Marathon (1994??) in like near 17:00 flat. That doesn't sound all that great, but my understanding was she did that on like near zero 5k training, My gosh, what super smooth runner. Paul was more a bull.
His kids would be about 8 and 13 now - I can only image what they could develop into someday.
You need to move the "8" in that "2:08" to the right one decimal place:
https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/united-states/jill-stamison-mcmullen-80021Not Done Just Yet wrote:
Blowing.Rock Master wrote:
Can't find any verification now, but Paul McMullen broke 4:00 when he was 180 or over.
I can't find verification now either, but pretty sure this is accurate.
He played football in high school, but turned to cross country when he ran at Eastern Michigan University. in the early 1990s.
I live about a mile from Eastern and less from than a mile from when he lived after he graduated. I used to see him out and about quite often.
(Useless) side note; he has two children from his first marriage to Jill McMullen. Those kids have great genetics. Jill was a 2:08 800 meter runner and I remember watching her run and win her first 5k race one year before the Detroit Free Press Marathon (1994??) in like near 17:00 flat. That doesn't sound all that great, but my understanding was she did that on like near zero 5k training, My gosh, what super smooth runner. Paul was more a bull.
His kids would be about 8 and 13 now - I can only image what they could develop into someday.
I found a May 10,1995 clipping from USA Today that says he ran 4: 19 at 210 pounds and went sub 4 at 190 pounds though it does not give a time. Does say he ran 3;38.95 in the 1500.
American list all-time:
Hesch is an admitted doper. Nothing freakish about it.
Blowing.Rock Master wrote:
Can't find any verification now, but Paul McMullen broke 4:00 when he was 180 or over.
McMullen used to post here quite a lot, under the rather brazen name of something like "1996OlympianPaulMcMullen." Some pretty nasty personal battles played out on this message board, but I just saw that he died a couple of years ago in a skiing accident, so the world has obviously long since moved on to other things. I was going to ask if the 180 pounds included all ten of his toes; he used to joke about his running with only eight toes after some kind of accident. He had decent range for someone so heavy and muscular, but he came apart when he tried to move up to the marathon.
According to WA, McMullen ran 3:54.94 in the mile and a much better 3:33.89 1500. He was also a 1:45+ 800 guy and a pretty good 10K runner. Oddly, his best times came long after his 1996 Olympic year AND long after his mowing accident left him with just eight toes.
I'm a nobody but I ran sub 4 at probably 175.
In a new podcast episode of StrengthRunning, Sam Parr mentions a conversation with Josh Kerr. Kerr allegedly told him that he hit 200 lbs in his freshman year and was just barely able to get under 4 minutes.
Visitor wrote:
In a new podcast episode of StrengthRunning, Sam Parr mentions a conversation with Josh Kerr. Kerr allegedly told him that he hit 200 lbs in his freshman year and was just barely able to get under 4 minutes.
yeah maybe 200lbs for a deadlift or squat but Kerr did not weigh 90kg and run sub4
