What about Lydiard? Or the Irish fella living in Kenya, O'Connell? O'Connell has a garden where every time an athlete breaks a WR or wins a major medal they plant a tree. The garden has like 40 trees. That is top notch coaching/management.
What about Lydiard? Or the Irish fella living in Kenya, O'Connell? O'Connell has a garden where every time an athlete breaks a WR or wins a major medal they plant a tree. The garden has like 40 trees. That is top notch coaching/management.
[quote]GWT wrote:
Using your logic we could say that all of the greatest distance coaches in the world live on the continent of Africa. [quote]costa wrote:
[quote]solinsky21 wrote:
Thats exactly right. But has one distance Coach in Africa had more athletes become the best than Kersee? Maybe there are a few who come close, but no one can top him.
I think Clyde Hart would for sure be one of the first coaches to come to mind when someone asks about the best, however it seems as though he has dominated one event, where as Kersee and maybe some others have done very well it many different events.
Does anyone know if Hart has had success with athletes outside of the 400m (besides MJ' 200m).
I thought he said he coached 800m guys and some milers as well.
It's gotta be Dennis Mitchell. He's school Billy Boy Lawson so many times he should be given an honorary Doctorate from Kent.
*schooled
If you're talking about T&F coach, I'd say either Bill Bowerman or Fnantz Stampfl.
Track and Field coach it's Tellez.
Could coach pretty much any event at a world class level. Most of the others mentioned are all specialists in one event area.
Track and Field coach it's Tellez.
Could coach pretty much any event at a world class level. Most of the others mentioned are all specialists in one event area.
Could coach pretty much any event at a world class level. Most of the others mentioned are all specialists in one event area.Yeah, specialists in the most important area of all, winning acual Olympic medals, IAAF outdoor medals, or top road/thon medals.
Who coached UCLA's Evelyn Ashford to her 5 Olympic and WC medals ?
Tellez coached Carl Lewis to 20 Olympic and WC medals, Leroy Burrell to 4 Olympic and WC medals, Joe DeLoach to one, Kelly-Ann Baptiste to one. Is that enough for you ?
I meant Kirk
The King Carl wrote:
Tellez coached Carl Lewis to 20 Olympic and WC medals, Leroy Burrell to 4 Olympic and WC medals, Joe DeLoach to one, Kelly-Ann Baptiste to one. Is that enough for you ?
Here's a good list from elitetrack:
Carol Lewis - American record LJ, Bronze medal WC LJ (3 or 4 Oly team - 80, 84, 88, 92)
Mike Witherspoon (trials 100 winner in 1992… hurt in rounds in Barcelona)
Sam Jefferson (NCAA Champ in early 90's)
FLoyd Heard (19.85)
Kirk Baptiste (1984 silver medal in 200)
Frank Rutherford (bronze in Barcelona TJ)
Michelle Collins (NCAA 200m champ)
Jenny Adams (NCAA LJ/100H champ)
Stanley Floyd (NCAA 100m champ)
Mike Tully (18 foot vaulter at UCLA)
James McAlister (27'0 at UCLA)
Jerry Herndon (26'7 at UCLA)
Clarence Taylor (54-11 TJ at UCLA)
James Butts (54'7 TJ at UCLA)
Milan Tiff (54'1 TJ at UCLA)
Denny Rogers (53'7" TJ at UCLA)
Jolanda Jones (NCAA heptathlon champ)
Mark Baughman (NCAA shot champ)
Anthony Ketchum (NCAA 400m champ)
Brian Stanton (NCAA HJ champ)
also had a few other 17+ PV ers UCLA.
In addition had Dwight Stones, Willie Banks and James Butts at UCLA and coached some distance runners in his early days.
Wow that's alot of medals. John Smith has alot too, but I don't think as many as Tellez.
Any stats website which lists medals by coaches ?
I believe Kersee has caught Smith and Tellez and now has the most IAAF Outdoor & Summer O medals.
Clements last 4 from Beijing and Berlin, plus medals by Allyson, Shawn, Dawn, Monique, puts Bobby over the great John Smith and the great Tom Tellez.
BTW, those three gentlemen are the only three that can rightfully claim the title as "The World's Greatest Track and Field Coach"
Actually, although Alberto Salaazar is an amazing coach, he has so much to work with, with all those professinal athletes, it is easier to make them successful. Now the greatest T&F coach is DAVE SMITH, representing OSU. Coaching OSU Cross Country to being NCAA X Champs, individual athletes such as German Fernandez (NCAA 1500 M Champion, Big 12 Conference Indoor Mile Champion), Colby Lowe (American Junior 5k Champion as a Freshman, and 8th at NCAA X as a Sophomore). DAVE SMITH!!!
a good coach isn't measured by how many Olympians or WR holders they have to their name--a good coach is the someone who extracts the full measure (and then some) from whatever people he is given to coach--
on this basis--bowerman, and lydiard are "greats".
salazar is getting to "greatness"
maybe gagliano is pretty high too...
Yup, to be a God like Tellez/Kersee/John you have to have coached several DOZENS of WCs and Oly medalists, WRs, big marathon/RR top 3s.
The LA area coaches are all famous for taking athletes, juicing them, and winning medals. I don't think this is something we should be praising. Cheaters and dopers are not the greatest examples for sport. I'd say that John McDonald and Bill Bowerman are probably the greatest coaches of American athletes. Smith and Kersee are not up there with the honest coaches, who are the ones we should be talking about.