Michael Coe Breakthrough - 7:48!!

Hey Fernandust, you don't know poop from apple butter, Your boy lost, accept it! EVEN if GF was cocky, so what, he's a stud, and I can surely bet you're a loser.

Seriously, you need to start listening to the commentary instead of taking everyone's word for it. He did not say that Coe took Fernandez wide. He said: "Coe's going wide. He's not letting Fernandez get around him."

There is a HUGE difference between taking someone wide and going wide. Coe did go from the inner half of lane one to the outter half. He did this when Fernandez was behind him. Not when he was next to him.

There is nothing wrong with this tatic. It's a smart move.

Coe ran a great race. As did Fernandez.

College running is as deep as I can ever remember.

Running extra distance is never a smart move. On the turn, he did start to push into German and German got him back in by the straight. Look at where they are when they first hit the straight. German is keeping him very tight just as a reminder not to try that shit again. it was pretty cool to see.

side note, what's the story with Michael Fout???[/quote]

i'm sorry but michael fout will be rememebered as one hit wonder footlocker champion

Galen Rupper wrote:

Hey Fernandust, you don't know poop from apple butter, Your boy lost, accept it! EVEN if GF was cocky, so what, he's a stud, and I can surely bet you're a loser.

Don't have a "boy" in the race. Clearly you did though. Studs don't finish races with a smug look to the competition. Fernanez has yet to prove his mud. Footlocker, bomb. NCAA's DNF, never in the top 5.

Up to now I've been a fan, the smugness won't be good espectially if he takes his act to the olympics.

if you watch the video at about 54 seconds in, it looks like Coe may have said something to German as he passed him...

Coe did nothing wrong, except by the vibe on this thread push boy wonder to the line..

Is Fernandez so above reproach that anyone who finishes close gets slandered?

Coe made the race. He took the lead w/two laps to go and fought German clean from there. I don't know what his PR was before but it was a shock to see him take it to The Prodigy.

Coe is big- looks like a sprinter, w/movie star looks. Life is unfair, but it makes for good plotlines.

what i like is after the cowboys score a touchdown i witness an entire stadium full of people flash douche gang-signs

Some of you people really jump to conclusions, don't you.

Coe said something to German.

German dissed Coe.

German flashed gang signs.

Well here's my conclusions:

Coe looked to see where German with one to go. Is is going to say something with one lap to go running a 7:48?

German worked very hard down the final straight. You could see him grimace. He put a little distance on, and was shutting down a little too early. He was going to give the "standard" OK Cowboy victory/score sign sign. The one which Ryan Vail does. The ones which all OK State fans do during football. It's a little gun sign...you know as in a Cowboy. When he looked over and saw Coe right there. He'd closed the small gap back, and German almost blew it.

From my view, I saw no disrespect. I saw a "shit I almost blew it look, and a quick pulling back of the Cowboy victory sign.

I could be wrong, but somehow I think it more likely to be correct than the "disrespect" viewpoint - as this is pretty out of character with everything we've seen from German so far.

yesterday morning my friend and i were talking about if cal XC will be good next year, and about coe. i said, "he was really good in high school, and ran pretty good in XC, but i thought he'd be a lot better." he agreed.

so i was pretty shocked to see he ran 7:48. awesome! looks like he'll be the XC front-runner for the bears next year, after he handles some business in track.

Wasn't this thread originally to talk about how great Coe's breakthrough race was?

fernandust wrote:

watching the runnerspace finish shot, is it just me or is fernandez starting to look cocky?

if you have the cock, you can be cocky.

what is wrong with being cocky in competition? why do runners insist they should act like monks and nuns?

if he was cocky out of competition, then I'd call him out, but I wish more guys were cocky during competition.

Maybe. His previous PR at Dempsey was 7:59.75. Is 11+ seconds considered a breakthrough?

Kmurphstermcwerfster wrote:

Wasn't this thread originally to talk about how great Coe's breakthrough race was?

Coe is big- looks like a sprinter, w/movie star looks. Life is unfair, but it makes for good plotlines.

You sound like a Stalker.

the big picture: 11 second pr for coe and, more or less the same for fernandez. the latter can celebrate a little because he just ran faster than the outdoor american junior record in the 3k, even though this track doesn't seem to count for any record purposes. a lot was expected from coe after some hs performances. tremendous job. lots of great prospects never go sub-7:50. and the 3:00 last 1200m suggests that there is more in the tank for both of these guys (we know there's more there for fernandez).

How many times do you think Rich Gonzalez has watched the video of this race?

To be a tiny bit more accurate; his last 1400m was 3:30. The rabbit hit 1600 at 4:16, German was 4:17ish.

notice that in that flotrack interview fernandez says that he was sick a couple days before and he doesn't sound arrogant at all in the interview.