Kipyego is lucky

rib nerd wrote:

i agree with "good deals". The trio of frosh are good but so is Babcock and Kipyego beat her soundly. Babcock had beaten Hasay all track season as in 6 months ago.

The people to watch for next year are Schaaf, babcock (frosh this year) and Lisa Koll of Iowa State in her sr. year.

Actually Babcock has never beaten Hasay and Hasay soundly defeated her at the Olympic Trials.

I don't understand why people would actually think this.. I guess that Sally's Resume of 8 National Titles, and 2 runners up with a 2:07 jogging 800m, 4:06 after 2 races 1500m, 15:11 with crapy Rabit and leading the whole race, 31:25 10,000m basically by herself would even come into question with some high school girls. Hassay is good. Duh you would be dumb to say otherwise.. But to say that Kipyego is Lucky.. Hassay is Lucky she never has to race Sally.. Hassay is gonna have her hands full with Susan, Koll, and JENNY... Girl can't even win Foot Locker Nationals after her freshman year and you think she can beat the greatest Collegian of all time.

The great thing about this sport is the stop watch doesn't lie. Hassay has times she can chase so we will see how "Lucky" Sally is.

I think todays performance says it itself. With her low base training and spending all of her off time on her feet at nursing school to still run that fast in those crappy conditions... You high school jerk offs should go back to Dyestat talk crap

kipyego is great, but jordan hasay has a faster 1500 AND mile personal best than tirunesh dibaba.

dont believe me look it up.

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Laurynne Chetelat had an incredible sub 10 performance in the 3200 last year at the CA state track meet and almost beat Hasay in the process...

Kipyego beat her pretty soundly. This 3-time champ is far from lucky...

douglas burke wrote:

kipyego is great, but jordan hasay has a faster 1500 AND mile personal best than tirunesh dibaba.

dont believe me look it up.

Doug,

You are such a sycophant. Get out of Hasay's pants. She is good , but has a long way to go to be compared to Budd, Dibaba or even Decker for that matter. To put her in any relation to Dibaba just shows your US biased stupidity. What makes you think that Dibaba couldn't run close to, or under, 4 minutes if she wanted? Bekele doesn't have a fast 1500m either, but he could run under 3.35 if he bothered to really focus on the event. But since both (Dibaba and Bekele) are double Olympic champs and world-record holders at the 5/10, why bother. I know that 29.54 isn't the WR, but perhaps should be - if the Chinese are at all suspect.

The fact that Hasay made the final at the US trials just shows how poor the depth in the US really is in middle-distance these days. I hope that Jordan has a great future, but she needs to develop sub-2 minute 800m speed (like Decker/Favor) to she's ever to be a memorable factor over 1500m. More likely she'll be a Flanagan excelling at 5k/10k. Hopefully for her sake there isn't some Ethiopian or Kenyan phenom probably better than her (like Jelimo)that shows up when she is at her peak.

I think people have forgotten Susan Kuiken has one more year and will dominate next year, yesterday she ran faster than Barringer ever has on a much slower track. Anyone else see a trend 2007 3rd, 2008 2nd, 2009 ?

Hasay has had a great career and has shown good improvement on the track. In cross country, though, she has not shown good progress. She may well train through cross and not really focus on it or she may just not run smart races.

All three are good, but certainly are unlikely to dominate next year.

Anyone ever heard of Nicole Blood? Everyone said the same thing about her. Kipyego is the real deal.

i know you're trolling.. but hasay does not have a faster mile PR than dibaba. In fact, I'm pretty sure dibaba's 3k pace is about Hasay's 1500m pace.

too good to pass up wrote:

I agree. Will Jordan Hasay become the first freshman to win NCAA? I think..

I'm pretty sure that Suzy Tuffey won as a freshman.

What all of you fail to understand is that Kipyego can't be any good because she ran in the NJCAA.

That, by default, makes her suspect because we know all JUCOs suck (along with D-2s, D-3s and NAIAs).

This is so stupid, even for trolling.

Yes, Hasay has a faster 1500, a distance Kipyego rarely runs. Move up to 3k and Kipyego is almost 30 seconds up on her. No track record for Hasay on longer distances, where Kipyego has dominated.

As for the bizarre claim that Hasay has a 1500 pr that is faster than Dibaba's- I haven't even seen a 1500 time for dibaba, has she run one? The claim seems pretty unlikely, since her 8:29 3k is basically Hasay's 1500 PR run back-to-back.

douglas burke wrote:

well tirunesh dibaba ran a 14:30 for a track 5k at age 16 and then was the world 5k champ as a 17 year old.

zola budd ran 8:28 for 3k as a junior.

linet masai ran 30:26 for 10k and 4th place at the 2008 olympics.

last year a 17 girl year old ran a 2:22#8 marathon.

and maybe the most impressive girl junior of all ran a 3:51.34 for 1500 as a 17 year old.

and my friend told me when its all said and done jordan hasay will be better than all of them.

Paula Radcliffe ran 2:17:18 at 28 years old.

Svetlana Masterkova ran 4:12.5 for the mile at 28 years old.

Tirunesh Dibaba ran 14:11 at 23.

Meseret Defar ran 14:16 at 24.

my friend told me when its all said and done, women in their 20s own the world records.

What national championship did Sally win? Kenya?

Actually Hasay doesn't have a faster 1500 than Kipyego.. last year Kipyego won the 5k at NCAA and then ran around 4:07? or 4:06 to take 3rd? in the 1500 the day after.. very impressive running.. and it was one of the fastest NCAA 1500 finals ever.

And in that 1500 NCAA final it was super windy in Des Moines. Kipyego ran a valiant race before losing right at the end. Winds were 20 mph with gusts in the 25-30 range that day.

There's absolutely no way that Hasay could beat Dibaba in a 1500. Hasay's PR in the 1500 is 4:14.50. I can't find a 1500 time on dibaba but her main competitor and someone that she is equal to or better than on any given day is Meseret Defar. The 1500 PR of Defar is 4:06.12.

I believe Kipyego was second in the 1500 finals in 4:05 high. A day after setting the meet record in the 5000.

Sally is the greatest distance runner in NCAA history(and Suzy Favor Hamilton is the greatest mid-distance).

Jordan Hasay will be NCAA champ next year!