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Where do Adam Goucher and Jonathon Riley fit into this?
For NJ it would have to be Marty Liquori and Craig Forys. Marty for the mile and Craig for XC/2 mile. Marty 3:59 in HS, Forys 8:44 in HS plus huge times at Van Cortland Park which both ran.
CA is the DOC
greenliner wrote:
IL: Virgin, Spivey, Torres, Torres, Sage
You sir, know nothing about Illinois XC.
It would probably go Derrick, Virgin, J. Torres, Graves. With Withrow, Sage, Spivey, and Jager and honorable mention.
Shut Sewall, you are a disgrace to Illinois and get back to Dyestat. You have no idea about any of the "older" greats from back in the day.
For NY - I'd have to put Trautman in the mix..
"Fish" broke Gregorek's Bear Mt Record, then won the 3000 @ Penn Relays and was The Runner (magazine) HS runner of the year in 86 I think.
how good was Culpepper in hs?- from Texas- how bout WEJO?MUST HAVE BEEN GOOD XC RUNNERS- BIG STATE- lots of distance runners=
anybody heard of Greg Meyer. Slot him #2
for MD-Centro, Haile , Malley, Wheeler. Dobert, Patrick?
Riiiiggghhhtttt....
Derrick had a superb final year, no question, but I am not sure I'd put him in the same league as Spivey or Virgin, but that's me and this is just opinion, in any event. In 4 years of XC, Jorge ran 2-1-1-1 at state, Sage ran 24 as a frosh and improved every year since until he won as part of one of the best xc teams in US prep history. I should have listed Graves and Merrick, no question. Donald I know quite well, and the shame is that people really did not know of him until his senior year. I like Evan Jager, but I think one-on-one Donald would have beat him, but who knows? They are all good runners and should be so honored.
The real question is, is the original poster only referring to their high school performances? If so, I might alter the order a bit; if not, Virgin and Spivey are heads above the rest. Torres back a little, and then Don, who could claim a D1 1500m championship, and an Olympic qualifying run.
Lets not forget Al Salazar.
NC is Johnny Dutch.
110m Hurdles (Clayton) 13.39 2007
Approaching world class.
nightline wrote:
NC is Johnny Dutch.
110m Hurdles (Clayton) 13.39 2007
Approaching world class.
Dude, read the title of the thread??
110m hurdles?? are you serious???
It should be only high school (otherwise your just asking who was the best senior xc runner). It isn't clear if you want peak year or total body of work (Do you give a crap what place someone finished as a freshman?)
greenliner wrote:
Riiiiggghhhtttt....
Derrick had a superb final year, no question, but I am not sure I'd put him in the same league as Spivey or Virgin, but that's me and this is just opinion, in any event. In 4 years of XC, Jorge ran 2-1-1-1 at state, Sage ran 24 as a frosh and improved every year since until he won as part of one of the best xc teams in US prep history. I should have listed Graves and Merrick, no question. Donald I know quite well, and the shame is that people really did not know of him until his senior year. I like Evan Jager, but I think one-on-one Donald would have beat him, but who knows? They are all good runners and should be so honored.
The real question is, is the original poster only referring to their high school performances? If so, I might alter the order a bit; if not, Virgin and Spivey are heads above the rest. Torres back a little, and then Don, who could claim a D1 1500m championship, and an Olympic qualifying run.
For California - how can you not include Rich Kimble, Bobby Thomas, Thom Hunt - WORLD cross country champions all of them.
Eric Hulst has to be on the list for CA
For New York State...let me throw out Josh McDougal/John Trautman, Matt Centrowitz, and John Gregorek.
The Thread asks "Greatest HS XC Runner". Derrick didn't win Footlocker, although he had an impressive XC season.
NJbest wrote:
For NJ it would have to be Marty Liquori and Craig Forys. Marty for the mile and Craig for XC/2 mile. Marty 3:59 in HS, Forys 8:44 in HS plus huge times at Van Cortland Park which both ran.
since this is just xc, it's probably jason dijoseph with forys a close second