3-part ? German Fernandez v. Kendra Schaaf

Schaaf is still better.

schaaf is better, and canadian, and hot.

its a no brainer

coooougar wrote:

they were both born in the same year. the days younger doesnt matter.

agreed. as long as they were the same year in school, they likely began running at roughly the same time (middle school track). Thus, they have been running for roughly the same amount of time. Kendra was just 210 days older when she started training.

lagsun wrote:

Somehow I don't think Schaaf was getting in extra training the first 210 days of her life. She is older than Fernandez that's about it.

Not even relevant. For a male, this stage in their life they generally make big strides before starting to level off a bit. Running earlier or later doesn't always have much to do with the maturation of the body at a certain time in your life. You may go through some changes early on in hs early on, but you hit your hormonal peak around 18 which allows males to make huge phsyical gains.

1. pac 10>big 12, u dub women>ok state guys,therefore kendra>german (i'm a bit biased tho, being canadian)

2. german has more potential, whereas kendra seems to be close to her ceiling...neither make any sort of dent in the world stage though

3. german - 0

kendra - 4 team, 3 individual

Mrr82 wrote:

...was the 300 days between when Dathan ran 1344 fully peaked, and 1327 unpeaked irrelevant? Or the 300 days between Matt Withrows 1413 and 1335? Full seasons at that point in your developement are huge.

Mrr82, while there is definitely basis for these points, I think that your application of these results is flawed for this particular debate.

The specific timeframe you cited for these examples have extremely significant training changes right smack in the middle. German has already adapted to the changes of college training (hes been training under Smith for nearly 5 months now, or 150 days), so its not likely he will see further performance increases of this nature another 210 days from now. Its hard to say that he will run 22:30 210 days from now, just because he ran 23:3x this year.

I agree, he will definitely see performance increases and benefits from training over the next 210 days, but your supporting facts are not necessarily completely applicable.

I repeat the question: If german was 210 days older, wouldn't he be a sophomore and the question irrelevant?

And what makes Kendra "close to her ceiling??" and German not. Word on the street is she is running 45-50mpw and has made huge strides in the last year and a half.

lagsun wrote:

Somehow I don't think Schaaf was getting in extra training the first 210 days of her life. She is older than Fernandez that's about it.

No, but she did get 210 days of extra training if they started running at the same time. Also I doubt Fernandez was doing any training the first 210 days of his life either, so I do not get your point at all. In summary, you're an idiot.

how about they race each other to determine who is the "better runner." Who would win in a 6k?

cah87 wrote:

lagsun wrote:

Somehow I don't think Schaaf was getting in extra training the first 210 days of her life. She is older than Fernandez that's about it.

No, but she did get 210 days of extra training if they started running at the same time. Also I doubt Fernandez was doing any training the first 210 days of his life either, so I do not get your point at all. In summary, you're an idiot.

In summary, you jumped too quickly on his back, making you look like you are an idiot with poor reading comprehension to boot.

He means that assuming they starting training at the same time (NOT AGE!!!), such as say... the beginning of grade 7, then they would have the same amount of training in. Kendra would just be 210 days older than German when they started training.

I will repeat my question AGAIN: If German was 210 days older, wouldn't he be a sophomore now?

Well? wrote:

I will repeat my question AGAIN: If German was 210 days older, wouldn't he be a sophomore now?

Not necessarily? He could have chosen to stay back a grade?