another thing that is so amazing about bekele is the fact that he probably can kick with the world's best milers. he closed the 5000 and 10000 in 53.xx... ramzi closed the 1500 in 53.xx... i'm not sure what bekeles 1500 pr is but i honestly think he is worth a sub 3:30... his speed is comparable with any miler on the planet right now.
You guys and your "oh he would just go and do this 63-63-63 and beat your 55-63-90"
Thats being so stupidly ignorant to believe he would just stick to his run and not go with the world class athlete that just put over 10 lengths between him and you.
Because we all know Bekele can not only predict the future but he can also mathmatically measure out the spilts he will need to do in his head to match your surge.
Gerry wrote:
Well, I admit you would have to do a heap of hard training to be able to pull of a 55 second lap. You would need to get half a year of 175-250 mile weeks for sure. And you would have to train yourself on the track to be able to run a 55 and then return to race pace without hitting the wall. It would not be easy at all. It would take a heap of hard training.
How much does Bekele run?
I heard he does 400 miles a week all at 4:45-5:00 pace
The point is he would go with you than make you look silly 1 lap later.
You aren't going to be beat bekele by coming up with a creative race strategy. Stop looking for a short cut. To beat him, you have to be comparably talented and out train him.
END OF THREAD.
You can stop posting now o.O
FOREVER.
What if I made him run Backwards?
o.O wrote:
What if I made him run Backwards?
If your junk is shaped like so:
o.O
then no. NO.
I know this guy---
My junk is acutally shaped like O.o
:D
So I can totally win!
Gerry, an average of 200 mpw is about 3.5 hours of running per day! i don't understand how someone could do that for 6 months and have the resources necessary to pull it off. between rising food prices, rent, the cost of running shoes, etc., how could someone do it? i'm asking a serious question here: if you were to coach an athlete to run 200mpw for 6 months and try to keep him fed, healthy, and with enough income to keep some stability, how would you do it? wouldn't 4 hours of running a day make someone go crazy? i'm a coach, and am intrigued by your estimation, but i can't come to a way to figure it out. got any ideas?
be younger and wait. he will get old and slow. then you can beat him.
Simple, be the chosen distance prodigy of a nation (or Nike), be hand coached by a former Olympian, and not owe anything. Have an obsessive personality. Have a support staff.
Oh wait. That's Galen Rupp.
o.O wrote:
You guys and your "oh he would just go and do this 63-63-63 and beat your 55-63-90"
Thats being so stupidly ignorant to believe he would just stick to his run and not go with the world class athlete that just put over 10 lengths between him and you.
Because we all know Bekele can not only predict the future but he can also mathmatically measure out the spilts he will need to do in his head to match your surge.
but he knows he is the best. he knows you are running too fast.
Gerry, an average of 200 mpw is about 3.5 hours of running per day! i don't understand how someone could do that for 6 months and have the resources necessary to pull it off. between rising food prices, rent, the cost of running shoes, etc., how could someone do it? i'm asking a serious question here: if you were to coach an athlete to run 200mpw for 6 months and try to keep him fed, healthy, and with enough income to keep some stability, how would you do it? wouldn't 4 hours of running a day make someone go crazy? i'm a coach, and am intrigued by your estimation, but i can't come to a way to figure it out. got any ideas?
Do you know who you're asking?
Best way to beat him is to improve your 5k time to about 12.35 and your 10k time to 26.15. If you are better than he is it won't be so difficult.
Gerry wrote:
The only way to beat that magic is to DISRUPT his plan.
It's funny how we just casually talk about 'how' to beat Bekele. The next guy that writes "Dummies Guide on How To Beat Bekele" will sure be in Forbe's list.
On a serious note:
Imagine - how many Kenyan coaches have come and gone trying to solve that very same problem?
The answer is in God's hands. That, my running enthusiasts, we must be ready to accept.
RonnieJames wrote:
This is what it's going to look like at the end of the race if you use this strategy.
http://www.iaaf.org/OLY08/photo/index.html#47315
Oh my God this post made me laugh
aafadfad wrote:
And other athletes in that field were unable to run 3:57?
Yes they were unable. OF COURSE they were unable. That should be self evident. You actually needed to ask?
didnt webb try to put a 55 smack in the middle of a race onetime.
There was no strategy to beat Bekele these past few weeks that would have worked. 3 of the best 5k runners in the world created a plan to beat Bekele together and couldn't do it. He ran his last 2k faster than some people in the final could run all out for 2k.
Right now Bekele is arguably the most invincible 5k/10k runner ever. He is close to his peak physical age and has more experience winning championship races than anyone still active. The only major losses he has i can think of are the 2003 5k, the 2004 5k, and the World XC in the heat. Think about that... every other world championships/world cross/olympics he has won. The guys is race savvy.
Furthermore, there is no else in his physical ball park right now. There is no Geb, El G, or Tergat that serves as an athlete of a generation to compete with Bekele. Kipchoge, Soi, etc are all fine athletes, but they won't go down as all time greats. At least in 2002/2003 Geb was still in top form to compete with Bekele. Wanjiru may be as strong as Bekele and will eventually be able to hang with him in the 10k, but most likely does not have Bekele's speed.
Maybe by 2012 Bekele's age and Wanjiru's experience/greater shape will make the 10k competitive. For the 5k, I think it will take a sub 3:30 1500 runner to move up, develop the strength, and outkick Bekele.