No "devouring" here- just observing a curious phenomenon. It's one thing when a 27:30 guy ran 4:12 in high school and rarely races the 1500, quite another when he runs 4:01 (full mile) as sa prep, yet years later can't get much past that after numerous attempts throughout the year.
Great job, Taylor. The shadow of Goran Nava must have been tailing you.
Tyler, you have done us proud here at the big south. I always knew you had potential...there is no limit for you bro.
Taylor's last 150M is about 5:00 in. He looked as good as you can possibly look.
uh huh wrote:
No "devouring" here- just observing a curious phenomenon. It's one thing when a 27:30 guy ran 4:12 in high school and rarely races the 1500, quite another when he runs 4:01 (full mile) as sa prep, yet years later can't get much past that after numerous attempts throughout the year.
Well there is the fact that he's specifically training for the 10k. I also have to imagine he isn't trying to peak right now, and he's been struggaling with and injury. So to run a PR despite all that, it's not so bad. If this was his peak race, and he had been 100% healthy. Then this would be worrying. If he stays healthy, and come August jumped in a 1500 at his peak fitness and ran this time, then you might have a point.
Mrr82 wrote:
uh huh wrote:No "devouring" here- just observing a curious phenomenon. It's one thing when a 27:30 guy ran 4:12 in high school and rarely races the 1500, quite another when he runs 4:01 (full mile) as sa prep, yet years later can't get much past that after numerous attempts throughout the year.
Well there is the fact that he's specifically training for the 10k. I also have to imagine he isn't trying to peak right now, and he's been struggaling with and injury. So to run a PR despite all that, it's not so bad. If this was his peak race, and he had been 100% healthy. Then this would be worrying. If he stays healthy, and come August jumped in a 1500 at his peak fitness and ran this time, then you might have a point.
It'd be great if Rupp was running 3:3X or 3:5X for the 1500M/Mile. But he looked great in his 10K's last season running slower in the (metric) mile. What it probably means is, he won't kick with the top group in the olympics, if he makes it. But really, we knew that about our guys anyway. We can probably only hope for a Tim Broe type of 2004 race (against the 2nd group), with a higher finish.
What a great story on a site that is so often filled with folks finding fault in others. I haven't posted on letsrun in three years, but simply cannot help but say how proud I am of the runner and young man Taylor Milne has become. It's an awesome feeling to see someone begin to experience their potential, to stay in the game long enough to really see their talent, work, character and perseverance come together like this. To give up so much (working in convenient stores and other odd jobs just to make ends meet) where most of us take the degree, secure the job and move on with life never really tasting our potential... bad news though for some because this young man has more in month and years to come. He's obviously getting great guidance now, coupled with awesome ability and the work ethic it takes to be world class. Keep it up Taylor and understand that there are many of us who know and care for you who are extremely proud of you in so many ways... it's a virual lovefest huh?
Go Taylor. Go Panthers... let's not leave DK out either. Happy for you both.
ttc wrote:It'd be great if Rupp was running 3:3X or 3:5X for the 1500M/Mile. But he looked great in his 10K's last season running slower in the (metric) mile. What it probably means is, he won't kick with the top group in the olympics, if he makes it. But really, we knew that about our guys anyway. We can probably only hope for a Tim Broe type of 2004 race (against the 2nd group), with a higher finish.
Is there any doubt that rupp was probably a sub 4 miler when he went 27:33 last year? Or when he ran 7:49 for teh AJR as a frosh? The best runners at other distances, won't run their off events at their peak. Rupp's running 1500's now which means almost nothing.
I don't believe Rupp even ran a metric mile last year did he? I agree though that if he wants to be competitive he'll need to better his short speed. But hey, we can only ask so much. 27:33 would be worth dying for for most runners. That's such a huge accomplishment. To be competetive for a medal, he needs to drop a minute off his 10k time which is almost unfathomable. If he get's down to 27:05 by the time he retires, one should consider that a huge accomplishment for an American. I know we shouldn't limit ourselves, but it seems people are always to critical of hte kid and he's already done the almost unthinkable.
It is funny how you can call a kid that has ran 27:33 and close to sub 4 in the mile "embarrassing." Obviously you are just a f***ing loser who can't accomplish anything himself and feels the need to bash others. Go see a shrink.
Full video of the race:
http://speedendurance.com/2008/06/22/2008-harry-jerome-track-classic-1500-meters-men/
Wow, Milne buries them--sweet video.
If Milne can ensure a top 4 at Cdns. he is on the Olympic team...and with that sort of kick he will get through a round or 2 as well in Beijing....Nice to see hard work paying off.
That was a nice run. The announcer gets caught flat-footed when Milne makes his move at 1200. I can imagine him pawing through his notes trying to find out who had just taken the lead.
treadmill master wrote:
Wow, Milne buries them--sweet video.
If Milne can ensure a top 4 at Cdns. he is on the Olympic team...and with that sort of kick he will get through a round or 2 as well in Beijing....Nice to see hard work paying off.
Milne looked awesome... and how cool is it to see Robison closing that well off of a brisk pace again?
is this the leading time in Canada so far?
curious g wrote: is this the leading time in Canada so far?No, but close. Sully ran 3:35.78 on 18 May. Milne's time is next best. Then Brannen has a 3:37-point, 3:38 and 3:39. Sully and Milne are also in the mix for a couple more 3:38-39 times. Only the three of them were under 3:40 so far (before this meet anyway) according to AC's rankings, although they may be (are) a hair out of date.
This race makes Milne #5 on the Canadian all-time 1500m list, behind only Sullivan, Hood, Brannen, and Consiglio.
The End of Time wrote:
That was a nice run. The announcer gets caught flat-footed when Milne makes his move at 1200. I can imagine him pawing through his notes trying to find out who had just taken the lead.
That announcer was Scott Davis of Mt-SAC fame!
Yes, and Scott did a fine job. Taylor moved through and past the field so quickly on the backstretch that it was a tough call to see from the other side of the track.
And we even forgive Scott the odd "Americanism", such as naming Gary Reed one of the World's top half-milers, an event which I'm sure Gary has never run. Scott will be on the announcing team at the US Olympic Trials as well.
Pete wrote:
curious g wrote: is this the leading time in Canada so far?No, but close. Sully ran 3:35.78 on 18 May. Milne's time is next best. Then Brannen has a 3:37-point, 3:38 and 3:39. Sully and Milne are also in the mix for a couple more 3:38-39 times. Only the three of them were under 3:40 so far (before this meet anyway) according to AC's rankings, although they may be (are) a hair out of date.
A few more Canadians broke 3:40 in that race:
5 Benninger, Kurt Unattached 3:39.80 3:38.54
7 Wells, Graeme North Delta 3:42.93 3:39.02
8 Martinson, Geoff Victoria 3:44.26 3:39.21
New pr's for all of them.
Taylor ran great... but I can't believe a :57 finish buried everyone so much. Especially Sully & Brannen.