Give CHRISTIN WURTH-THOMAS some love!! CLEAN AR!!

Perhaps this can be looked at as the greatest compliment that she can receive on these boards...to be labled a possible drug cheat.

I can assure you that she is not and can only hope that many of you continue to watch her career as she continues to develop into one of America's best distance runners.

Now it would just be nice to see her given the same recognition that some of the other Americans are given. She may not have medalled or set an American Record yet (well...) but she's running better than any American distance runner at this point in the season.

Maybe, but apparently nobody is ready to give her even that level of compliment yet. Actually, if you'd been able to pay attention you'd know that the only thing anyone has tried to label her as is "clean" (well, and "AR holder"). Nobody said that she's probably dirty, just that there's no way YOU or anyone posting here KNOWS that she's clean. Get a grip, you can't assure anyone of anything. Go tell it to trolley the mailman or something.

Also, running this well at this point in the season doesn't mean much of anything on its own. Refer back to Regina Jacobs for this. Good for her, but it is what it is.

How do we do that I am not a drug cheat, or you, or Kristin, or even Dick Pound might be a drug cheat. The fact is, no tests can certify someone as not a drug cheat.

I can assure you that Christin does not and will not use any substances that are banned. It offends me that this would even be mentioned.

I'm sure many will argue that family members of cheats have said the same in the past but I'm right there with you. I know for certain that she hasn't ever used any banned substances and I guess now the best Christin can do is take the drug insinuations as compliments.

For someone to act as if no one has insinuated or even suggested that she may be dirty is pretty ridiculous or perhaps just naive. Although the OP did begin by saying that her mark was the "CLEAN AR", this should not open her up to speculation. The other two ahead of her on the list are known users and Christin has never tested positive for anything. It's one thing to point a finger at those who have been convicted, it's quite another to suggest that an athlete should be assumed guilty (or even just not assumed anything) until proven innocent.

I think the point was to congratulate an athlete for an amazing race and to further put into perspective what a great mark, historically, it really is. Unfortunately the thread has turned into what many do and I don't think Christin would want this type of publicity to continue...That's all for me.

There are tests that can verify if an athlete is dirty, but there are no tests or suite of tests that can verify that an athlete is clean. Drug tests can only test for certain substances.

good performance but nothing to get all that excited about. kim smith (5k/10k specialist) ran 3 seconds faster this year and that is not even her event. if cwt runs 4:00 this spring/summer then it is time to get excited. until then it is just another good indoor performance. outdoors is where it counts.

You two have all the insight and credibility of any other worthless sycophant. Get a fvcking clue, you're doing your idol no favors here. Drugs were only mentioned in response to someone's unsupported claim that she's clean, go be angry at that poster for bringing it up at all. Your claims are meaningless and sjc is right, it really doesn't matter what she does indoors it's really outdoors that counts.

Give CHRISTIN WURTH-THOMAS some love!! POSSIBLY CLEAN AR!!

She is not an idol, she is my sister. I think that while I may be biased I also have first hand knowlege of this matter. I fully agree with you it matters what she does outdoors, and last year she proved that she has what it takes to get to Beijing by placing second in USATF outdoor championships. This thread was started as a praise to her accomplishments. The person that needs to get a clue is the one that has to come on here and try to bring down a runners name and what they have done.

Besides how is it unsupported that she is clean. She has passed every drug test that she has taken, and with the atmosphere in track as of late... I assure you she has taken a lot of them. On top of that you now have a family member who can assure you that she would quit before she would ever think about cheating.

With that being said. Go CW-T, and the CLEAN AR!!!

It sad that a forum like this that is supposed to be an environment supporting running has people like hyperbole that want to bring the sport and it's competitors down.

With today's sorry state of affairs, you are guilty until proven innocent. The vast majority of these women use drugs. I've seen no proof that she is clean.

Notice how none of the athletes are anonymous- everyone knows who they are. But, the cowards making the accusations are anonymous (unless in this case your last name is boy and your parents names you fat).

Give your real name and leave your email open so people can respond to the real you and then make your accusations.

ANd I know that you didn't say she is on drugs but your post was accusatory noen the less.

Oh- and that's my real name.

Big deal and you don't know enough (do you go to the bathroom and to bed with her and monitor her every meal and every waking moment?) to make any difference here with this. How would any of us even know whether you're really her brother? Just another unsubstantiated claim as far as any visitor to this site should be concerned. Passing "every drug test that she has taken" was something Regina Jacobs did for years, too. Means nothing in the sport today, just like your assurances mean nothing. What's sad is that you're so fvcking clueless, buddy. Nobody's trying to bring anything or anyone down, we just won't let you get away with your unsupported claims. We know better. It's like someone trying to come on here and say that so-and-so, their sister, ran a WR in practice and he was there to witness it and held the stopwatch that recorded it. Flat-out unconvincing.

First of all. I'm not the one hiding behind anonymous posts. I claimed I'm her big brother, and I am. My name is Justin Wurth and I live in Bloomington. Second of all I'm not the one that is clueless... by your own logic you are clueless, because you can't prove anything, but are all but accusing the top athletes of doping. (I at least do have some clue as I have some first hand knowlege)

Beyond that I still don't know what I'm clueless about.

What I do know is that I'm not going to argue any further with someone who has no credentials in T & F, and hides behind an anonymous post.

Go Christin!! We're proud of you.

As hard as it is to ignore them, you just have to ignore the jealous, cowardly, losers who have to be critical of anyone who has success.

Is it because they have none of their own? They go out and run everyday and just can't match the genetically gifted?

I wish your sister the best and the most success.

wurth big bro wrote:

First of all. I'm not the one hiding behind anonymous posts. I claimed I'm her big brother, and I am. My name is Justin Wurth and I live in Bloomington. Second of all I'm not the one that is clueless... by your own logic you are clueless, because you can't prove anything, but are all but accusing the top athletes of doping. (I at least do have some clue as I have some first hand knowlege)

Beyond that I still don't know what I'm clueless about.

What I do know is that I'm not going to argue any further with someone who has no credentials in T & F, and hides behind an anonymous post.

Go Christin!! We're proud of you.

You are completely missing his point. No one said she was a drug cheat in this entire thread. The whole thing was a compliment to her. You seem to be greatly over-reacting. The only thing that wasn't positive is someone made a point that you never know someone is clean and that was not negative or an accusation. It was only a statement meant to let everyone realize that there are way more people that cheat and never get caught than those that do get caught. You are clueless because you missed that point and took it as an insult directed at your sister rather than a statement directed at the status of our sport. Stop taking the estrogen pills for your sex change and you might not over react to something that is straight foreward.

Wurth-Thomas absolutely does NOT use drugs. She's one of the toughest and most decent competitors I know of.

In fact, drugs is about the furthest thing from anyone's mind that knows anything about Arkansas' women's program and the former athletes Coach Harter continues to work with like Wurth-Thomas.

I can tell you for a fact he takes an extremely dim view of cheats and it wouldn't be tolerated by him at any level, ever.

Congrats to Coach Harter, as well. He's one of the best distance coaches in the country. He can take a decent/good high school runner and turn them into something pretty special. If they buy into the program and do the work....

These women know who's cheating and so do the coaches. Wurth-Thomas ain't one of 'em, so please don't disparage her fine accomplishment with a bunch of far-fetched crap. It's a tasteless, unwarranted attack. Nothing but drivel.

I wasn't over-reacting. I was just giving some of the first hand knowlege that she was in fact a clean runner. If you don't want to accept that from a biased source that is perfectly fine.

I didn't miss the point. In fact I was going directly against that point. Did you read my post or were you just wanting to insult me?

I was insulted in the beggining because someone would essential make the statement that inherently they feel that runners(including my sister) are guilty until... well proven guilty. The reality is there are runners out there that love the sport and wouldn't dream of cheating.

I never insulted, or tried to offend anyone, in fact I hoped that everyone could take my statement for what it was and maybe be reassured that my sister is a clean runner. While I know I'm biased I also know my sister.

Congrats to your sister for a great race. She looked strong.

I'd recommend you stop responding to these dopes.

You are in no-winville now. You should be proud. I wish her (and any American getting ready for the Olympics) great success.