Armstrong & Vick : Contrast & Racism

Are you kidding me? This guy must be a troll because if he is actually a student writing this papper he is a prime example of why not everyone should go to college.

Vick has been convicted and neither has Armstrong. Vick gets his endorsements cut and Armstrong gets grope Mary Wittenberg. Is that just ?

Your paper should examine the hypocrisy of the people who seem to think Vick is the devil but who aren't all up in arms about people wearing leather or fur coats or eating veal. You might also want to investigate what these people were saying when people were dying in Louisiana during the time of Katrina and whether they felt as much outrage over the government's slow response as they did when they did in the case of the death of pit bulls. I wonder how many people who were moved to picket, boycott or write a letter of protest about dogfighting did the same when people were dying in New Orleans.

Corporate sponsors tend to flee when there is strong evidence of torturing and murdering animals. Lance gave himself a leg up for sure, but he didn't kill any animals, at least that we know of. Lance is way way way smarter than Michael Vick, and the public tends to react more positively towards people who seem intelligent, and less positively towards those who seem unintelligent and act like morons for years.

I live about a mile from where Vick lives in Duluth, GA. Trust me, no one near him has much good to say about him for the last five years. The parties at his house literally scare the neighbors. Watch Kroger clear out when his posse shows up. These are not racist comments - there are other black pro athletes who live nearby who are fine citizens and are well-liked by the neighbors. I think that Lance would have a positive reputation in his local area. Arthur Blank was a moron for signing this guy up no matter how athletic he was at the time.

Lance is no angel, but he is not a constant threat to those who are around him.

Armstong is the slickest dope fiend ever. Never got caught and won the Tour 7 times. Vick is black and gets villified even if not convicted. The U.S. is still the most racist nation on the planet. Where do you live ? In an integrated neighborhood ? I don't. In school is it integrated ? My dorm, cafeteria, locker room, classes, are all segregated. We is here, them Blacks over there. No signs on the water fountain. But it's segregation. Same with the court system, public relations, sponsors, that you have pointed out. The only country that I've been to that is worse is Israel, I went on a Christian Mission. In Israel they segregate the same identical skin color based solely on religion. The towels get the shit kicked out of them, the pancakes live like kings. So the U.S. is racist but not the worst you know, like they showed Rodney King's beating as something bad, but in Israel, the people love to beat the crap and publically humilate Arabs, I've seen it first hand.

Katrina and Vick are not the same at all. Our govt screwed up unintentionally. There is a huge difference between breeding animals to kill each other and ruthlessly executing them and having poor administrative capacity in a time of chaos. Vick is a piece of shit.

The government is not responsible for getting people out of New Orleans. That is the people's job. If you don't want to save your own ass then the hell with you anyway. There were plenty of warnings that a hurricane was coming. Those people had plenty of opportunity, those poor dogs had none.

LANCE ARMSTRONG NEVER TOOK ANY TYPE OF PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS!!!! HES JUST A F***ING MONSTER!!!

9-11 NEVER HAPPENED ITS A HOLLYWOOD TRICK TO GET AMERICA TO CRUSADE AGAINST THE ARABS

If Vick were not a pro football player, few would care.

It DOES wrote:

Doping destroys thousands of children's lives each year. Depression, suicide, cancer, bulemia, eating disorders, broken bones, disfigurement. Armstrong is the leading figure in the most despicable and wicked form of chemical poisoning of children outside of Phosphor Bombs, Napalm, etc. used by cowardly armies in warfare.

Huh?

Is that just ? wrote:

Vick has been convicted and neither has Armstrong. Vick gets his endorsements cut and Armstrong gets grope Mary Wittenberg. Is that just ?

You need to write better. Check what you write before you submit it as this makes no sense.

Vick has not been convicted, true. Armstrong has never been indicted for anything.

Armstrong survives cancer, wins the only bike race most Americans even know exist and raises millions for cancer research.

Vick writes one checks to what charities? Va Tech, I know.

Armstrong vigorously denies the allegations against him; Vick has his attorney write and read a statement (anyone really think Vick wrote that statement?).

cockfighter wrote:

Your paper should examine the hypocrisy of the people who seem to think Vick is the devil but who aren't all up in arms about people wearing leather or fur coats or eating veal. You might also want to investigate what these people were saying when people were dying in Louisiana during the time of Katrina and whether they felt as much outrage over the government's slow response as they did when they did in the case of the death of pit bulls. I wonder how many people who were moved to picket, boycott or write a letter of protest about dogfighting did the same when people were dying in New Orleans.

I love morons like you. What does one dogfighting have to do with emergency relief? What about the idiots who refused to leave? What about the local and state officials who botched things up?

Do you rely on government to tell you when to do anything? My guess is you are a Democrat who believes that government is responsible for taking care of you.

You need to get out into the world. Japan is an extremely racist country (I doubt you really know what racism means). Arabs hatred of Jews is well known (also Asians such as Iranian leaders--maybe not the rank and file Iranians).

My cul de sac is very integrated BTW. Hispanics, whites, blacks, mixed race families, etc. So screw you.

In college, people tend to hang out with people they CHOOSE to hang out with. My dorm was as integrated as the campus, but blacks often chose to live together. If a white student left school or moved off one wing, a black student would choose to move into that spot. When it came time to sign up for rooms for the following year, returning students would often ELECT to move onto that wing. Is that racism or freedom of choice?

If a group of people freely choose to live together and they all have the same skin color, is it racism or just human nature?

Of course Armstrong gets treated better, he got cancer from his drug abuse, now he's a hero for being a synthetic cheater. Vick made enough to live like a King for the rest of his life, no need to feel sorry for him, bad luck, but he knew he was Black all along. Vick was used to White folks freezing up, moving across the street, hiding their daughters, etc. whenever he came around, as all black men are used to in America. Vick knows that he would always get blamed for everything even if not convicted. That's how America is. What else is new.

In the United States skin color racism is more than just human nature, it's a disease, a sickness, the #1 problem in the country without any doubt. In other parts of the world that I've been to (mainly in the miltary), Jamaica, Iran, Korea, India, Cuba, Mexico, Russia, Japan, Taiwan, China, skin color racism is not so apparent. Iran, Middle east, and the Carribean are totally color mixed i.e. de-segregated. In Europe it is less so. Of course people create and racial superiority myths and segregate for more than just skin color, they use religion, language, tribe, geography, etc. There's no utopia.

Maybe you should take a class on how to create analogous comparisons. Vick and Armstrong are not even close to analogous, for reasons many have already written here. A better comparison--if you wanted to throw race into it--would be Bonds and Armstrong or maybe Bonds and McGwire. But even then, it's not really an accurate comparison.

In Bonds' case in particular, he has invited so much of the scorn thrown upon him with his openly surly behavior, it's nearly impossible for him to play the race card anymore. If he were anywhere near being a "nice guy" it would be a whole different case.

People who claim that there is a 'Race Card' are fools. It's racism, in many forms, skin-color, religion, language, you name it, that is the evil. Sluffing it off with excuse is denying responsibility for criminal behavior.

I'm not saying armstrong isn't a cheater, but most performance enhancers are not banned substances (as per state and federal governments). Vick has been caught with illegal drugs, and had charges brought up against him.

Even if Lance did cheat how much money has he raised for research. How many people actually think Vick's financial gains from dog fights have gone to something to make the world a better place.

Stupid Paper. There are plenty of race issues that are relevant, and this just isn't one of them.