I will be the next American to win Peachtree next year. Abdi almost did the Kenyans this year.
I will be the next American to win Peachtree next year. Abdi almost did the Kenyans this year.
Saidi Sief et Morcelli also cracked the 7:26 barrier... Kosovo doesn't know shit about track..
Ya, BK (Bob Kennedy) definitely didn't break 7:26. He ran 7:30, and Haile didn't run under 26 minutes (26:22)
partial wrote:
I think if Webb takes a shot a few weeks after Osaka with a couple race-specific workouts under his belt, he could do it.
Heck, I'd kind of like to see him in a 3 before Worlds. Even Webb will admit that his strength is, well, his strength. A 3K one month before Worlds wouldn't hurt him (physically)--regardless of the outcome. His camp is probably thinking more along the lines of fine-tuning for the 15, though.
Kosovo, you realize everyone is talking about the American Record of 7:30.84 by Bob Kennedy. I'm pretty sure no one was saying that he could run the World Record.
I would think that he might have a shot at BKs mark in the right race, but might not get down that low. Hard to tell right now without seeming overly optimistic. Would think he could at least get around 7:32-33. Depending on the decimals that would put him anywhere from #2 to #4 on the US AT list.
kosovo wrote:
but failed despite running sub 26 in the 10000m.
DID NOBODY CATCH THIS??? This dude's argument is void.
kosovo wrote:
BK, EL G, Haile and Komen are the only people who have made under 7.26.. not Webb... I promise... let him try...
This kosovo is a strange cat. As another poster pointed out BK (Bob Kennedy) didn't come close to breaking 7:26, and Morceli and Saidi-Sief broke 7:26. So this guy is way off. And no one was saying Webb would break 7:26. Some said he could break 7:30.
1. 7:20.67 Daniel Komen KEN Rieti 1996-09-01
2. 7:23.09 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR Bruxelles 1999-09-03
3. 7:25.02 Ali Saïdi-Sief ALG Monaco 2000-08-18
4. 7:25.09 Haile Gebrselassie ETH Bruxelles 1998-08-28
5. 7:25.11 Noureddine Morceli ALG Monaco 1994-08-02
(oh, we might be able to add Kenny B to the sub 7:26 list after tomorrow. He's in shape to do it.)
umm wrote:
kosovo wrote:but failed despite running sub 26 in the 10000m.
DID NOBODY CATCH THIS??? This dude's argument is void.
first time reading the thread and i'm also surprised it flew by so many people. i must have missed the meet where geb shattered the world record and broke the 26 minute barrier
Webb could probly run around 7:30 right now for the 3,000, maybe even 7:29. But to the guy who said 7:26, no way, not right now.
umm wrote:
kosovo wrote:
but failed despite running sub 26 in the 10000m.
DID NOBODY CATCH THIS??? This dude's argument is void.
Nah, we just wanted to let him keep repeating it in public. That, and I think some of us prefer to stick to the thread topic.
Webb has run 3:46.9 for the full mile. He is within about 3 and a half seconds of LG's best.
LG ran 7:23 for the 3k. Based on the mile, Webb should be at least 7 seconds (and probably a good deal more, as LG was more of a strength miler when he ran 7:23 than Webb is now) off LG in the 3k.
Thus, Webb most likely couldn't break 7:30 for 3k. He ran that 8:11 in a year when he was focusing more on his endurance, so even though he's much faster over the mile this year, there's a good chance he'd have trouble repeating that 8:11 even in a good race. I'd put him at 7:31-34.
First, it's more commonly El G.
You can't use a single athlete as the benchmark for other athletes.
Yes, Webb might be about 7 seconds from Hicham's best in the 3k, based on that logic.
But, Komen's best mile was a mere 3:46.38 (a month after his 2M WR). So, based on the extension of the original logic, we're talking about Komen being much slower than El G at the distance, but obviously, that's not true.
Webb also has a better 10k PR than Komen.
Ultimately, we'll have to wait and see.
BK ran 7:30, and his mile PR was....?
partial wrote:
I think you're right in some ways. Just remember what happened at Pre when he was probably in 3:49 mile shape and bombed. Running the 3K/2 Mile is a lot different, and just because he goes through in 4 minutes(13 seconds off the PR) doesn't mean he'll be licking his chops and feeling 100% relaxed. It won't necessarily feel easy for him like we all think it will. That being said, I think if Webb takes a shot a few weeks after Osaka with a couple race-specific workouts under his belt, he could do it.
Pre was never close to being in 349 shape..don't be ridiculous. If he was in 349 shape he would have been running 13 flat for his main even the 5k.
mrr82 wrote:
Pre was never close to being in 349 shape..don't be ridiculous. If he was in 349 shape he would have been running 13 flat for his main even the 5k.
*Ahem*... I believe he was referring to Webb AT the Pre meet (in a two-mile race), not Pre himself.
mrr82 wrote:
partial wrote:I think you're right in some ways. Just remember what happened at Pre when he was probably in 3:49 mile shape and bombed. Running the 3K/2 Mile is a lot different, and just because he goes through in 4 minutes(13 seconds off the PR) doesn't mean he'll be licking his chops and feeling 100% relaxed. It won't necessarily feel easy for him like we all think it will. That being said, I think if Webb takes a shot a few weeks after Osaka with a couple race-specific workouts under his belt, he could do it.
Pre was never close to being in 349 shape..don't be ridiculous. If he was in 349 shape he would have been running 13 flat for his main even the 5k.
Swing and a miss mrr82.