Maybe... wrote:
I bet you are one of those people that thinks they have a bunch of friends, but no one really likes you b/c you always throw your opinions where they are not solicited.
Dude, that is like 99.9% of LetsRun.
A bunch of assholes without friends.
I guess it has something to do with running.
I am of the .1% that actually has a life, good for me!!!!
the next workout you do with him, you race it, like a high school freshman; making sure you beat him in every interval or if it's a road run, beat him into the ground with a balls to the wall pace.
Find someone new and move on.
hetero life partner
StrangeMan, you are a strange man. Your response has nothing to do with the oringial post. Are you annoyed at letsrun posters in general? The orignal post simply asked a question about if you had a falling out with someone? It didn't say it was due to differences in opinion on religion or politics or anything for that matter.And you are acting like someone just insulted you personally??? "Maybe you really are this mean and judgmental. If so, I wouldn't want to hang out with most of you."Start another topic man.
StrangeMan wrote:
You know...
Maybe I am just a respectful person, or maybe I am just a wuss, but I never have these types of things happen to me.
If you have entire groups of people disliking you, maybe it is time to consider brushing up on rules of basic common courtesy.
Don't argue Politics or Religion with people, it never turns out for the better. If you don't have something nice to say, keep it to yourself. There is no sense in ahowing your ass to everyone, it just alienates you.
99.9% of runners in general (inclusive of letsrun posters) who run in packs think they have a bunch friends, but they are really insecure people. They need to feel like they "belong". Running with other people is a confirmation to themselves that they have friends. In reality, no one likes anyone in a running group. In fact if one goes faster and picks up the pace, eveyrone hates that person and there's trash talking behind people's backs and all that stuff going on. Don't confuse training partners with friends because they are not one in the same.
Letrun is Chock Full of Them wrote:
Dude, that is like 99.9% of LetsRun.
A bunch of assholes without friends.
I guess it has something to do with running.
I am of the .1% that actually has a life, good for me!!!!
Keep you friends close, but keep your enemies closer.
right on... wrote:
99.9% of runners in general (inclusive of letsrun posters) who run in packs think they have a bunch friends, but they are really insecure people. They need to feel like they "belong". Running with other people is a confirmation to themselves that they have friends.
In reality, no one likes anyone in a running group. In fact if one goes faster and picks up the pace, eveyrone hates that person and there's trash talking behind people's backs and all that stuff going on. Don't confuse training partners with friends because they are not one in the same.
I have to disagree on this. Something about hard training seems to form stronger friendships. Putting yourself through the pain of hard workouts week after week, season after season with my teammates always results in the formation of a strong bond between us. I can honestly say that the people on my team (or "pack" as you call it) are some of my best friends. This isn't because I'm insecure. It isn't because I feel the need to belong. It's because it's the truth. They would tell you the same thing. We hang out together after practice and on weekends. I have teammates who will get up at six in the morning to work out with me before work when I have a test or some other conflict during regular practice time.
This isn't by any means unique to my team. Most of the people I know who run for other teams are close to their teammates. Just look at who people hang out with. If you're out and you see one guy wearing track/xc team apparel, odds are at least a few of the other guys he's with are also.
Hey, we are all talking about training partners post-grad...
Teams are a different story altogether...
Sometimes in life a person has to decide who will be the mature adult and take the appropriate action.
justajoggernow wrote:
Sometimes in life a person has to decide who will be the mature adult and take the appropriate action.
Not on LetsRun, you stupid wussy n00b!!!!!
No, he's talking about "99.9% of letsrun posters". This includes many people who are on teams. Either way, how do you differentiate a teammate from a training partner? I mean what is a team really but a group of training partners? You can refer to it by either term, but in the end they are fundamentaly the same. They are both groups of people who come together to train towards a goal. I mean, one has a coach and the other might not, but that's the only differnce I can see. Also, I'll add that I have had many non-team training partners and running groups and had the same experience that I've had with team running.
Harry Kooter wrote:
I mean what is a team really but a group of training partners?
I see your point on this, but I agree that it is different. I see it as the difference between NCAA and NBA basketball, for instance.
In college, an XC team is working for the good of the team. Each runner is working for his/her teammates.
In a training group, everyone just wants to run for themselves. Very few groups out there that actually care about how the team finishes. Maybe one or two races a year, but for the most part, you just associate the other folks as people with whom you are running.
There is something band-of-brothers-like on a college XC team.
In the end running is a solo sport, and that by its nature attracts some "characters," obsessives, and the just badly socialized. Luckily, most of us aren't like that. The way that everyone can hurt in the same way at different speeds, means that running has a better sense of community than a lot of sports. There's few other sports where Olympians say "hi" to hacks as they pass each other on runs. There's a lot to love about the social aspects of our sport.
Quite apart from that, training with others involves balancing the needs of each person in the group. If someone's needs are not being met it's easy for resentment to build up. People can also say some dumb things when they're tired and light-headed.
But running is part of life, not distinct from it, and relationships will break as they do in other areas. If you've been honest and friendly and true, and the friendship still breaks up there's not much you can do, except move on after being sad for a little while. Say "hi" if you see them because you're a good person, not to spite them.
Good training partners are a valuable thing.
Friends are more valuable then training partners though. Training partners come and go, friends you want to hold on to.
Make New Friends, but Keep the Old.
One is Silver and the other Gold.
Ha!
There's an old saying we have in Texas...
You probably have it in Tennessee too...
It goes like this:
Fool me once... Shame on you...
Fool me twice... Shame on... I won't be fooled again!!!
Amen to that. I never date any girl who belongs to our competitive running club. I think of them like my little sisters or part of the family. Besides, most of them are not my "type" and have no boobs whatsoever, just flat chested.
pide piper of wrote:
To avoid any relationship problems in my own running group, I only date women who DO NOT belong to my own running group because then if we break up, then our mutual running friends will start taking sides and then you have internal strife within the runinng group.
right on... wrote:
99.9% of runners in general (inclusive of letsrun posters) who run in packs think they have a bunch friends, but they are really insecure people. They need to feel like they "belong". Running with other people is a confirmation to themselves that they have friends.
In reality, no one likes anyone in a running group. In fact if one goes faster and picks up the pace, eveyrone hates that person and there's trash talking behind people's backs and all that stuff going on. Don't confuse training partners with friends because they are not one in the same.
I hate people who run in groups because they'll take one characteristic about you, and then assume they know everything about you and the way you behave. I hate people who run in groups because of those sweeping generalizations they make.