This is a list of American high school students who have run a four-minute mile since the feat was first accomplished in 1964. The first person to run the mile (1,760 yards, or 1,609.344 metres) in under four minutes was Roge...
Not sure what you're fact-checking here. 49 performances across 34 individuals. 31 of those performances occurred since the start of the 2022 indoor season.
If you really want to nickel and dime on timeframe, 25 have occurred within the last five years as of today, June 5, 2026. But that leaves out 3 performances that happened on June 2 & 3, 2022.
Not sure what you're fact-checking here. 49 performances across 34 individuals. 31 of those performances occurred since the start of the 2022 indoor season.
If you really want to nickel and dime on timeframe, 25 have occurred within the last five years as of today, June 5, 2026. But that leaves out 3 performances that happened on June 2 & 3, 2022.
I’m not fact checking anything. My last post was deleted and was a response to a post about “threshold training” which basically said:
From 2015-2019, 5 (I said 4 in the original post so I was one off) US HS runners broke 4:00.
From 2020-2026, 24 have done it. But, I guess, make that 27.
The adoption of “threshold training” by every HS runner coincided perfectly with the introduction of super spikes. What a nice coincidence. As if HS runners weren’t already doing this type of training when super spikes showed up.
I remember some years where no HS athlete would break 9. Now, we’ll have a few dozen in a single race alone.
I think 3:56 is the equivalent to a previous sub- 4:00. How many HS athletes have run under 3:57 all time? I imagine very few.
Back in the day my HS teammate ran 9:10 and was 15th in the US. Not sure if that was the ranking when he ran it or if he was still 15th at the end of the year. T&FN only listed the top 10 back then. I don't know where the meet commentators got their data. I think there was only 1 guy under 9 that year.
Contrary to a lot of other old joyless whiners here, I think it is great that kids are running super fast times and I don't care if the shoes are helping. It sucked running during the era where Americans sucked at running and would get embarrassed at international competitions. And every coach I ever had thought it was a hopeless task to even think of beating a random Kenyan guy because they were 'genetically superior'. Imagine trying to believe in yourself in that environment. I love seeing American guys go to major competitions and kick butt.
I love the way kids are full of confidence now. They truly believe in themselves and put in amazing work to get what they want. It's not all about the shoes. A lot of it is just more kids being allowed to go for it and not being constrained by coaches who don't believe in them. The kids can get the information they need online and if their coach is a pessimist loser who doesn't believe in them, they can take matters into their own hands. All they ever needed was a good support system.
Training has improved (threshold). Tracks are better. Shoes have helped, but not as much as the jealous 20 - 45 year old plodders claim. So what? Things are supposed to improve. Get over it.
Training has improved (threshold). Tracks are better. Shoes have helped, but not as much as the jealous 20 - 45 year old plodders claim. So what? Things are supposed to improve. Get over it.
Exactly! And sub 4 has become the common place mediocrity that we see today. Trophies for everyone!
Let them have their accomplishment. Super spikes aren't even that much of a help over the mile and I doubt all of them took bicarb. The biggest reason high school times have advanced so far is training. Can you really be mad at them for working harder and smarter than kids in the past?
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someone already said what I said so I wrote a new response
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