He and Damian Kallabis had a bit of an "incidence" at one point.
Franke was a cancer victim at age 47.
Franke passed away with lymphatic cancer. If you Google (or med search) "causes" you'll not see any links to use of peds. Just very unlucky. Kallabis retired early to focus on his tech career...big money...(Polish origin, big work ethic) I'm guessing he's a multiple millionaire now, in euros. A lot more than he could earn in athletics.
The innuendo, at times, without basis.
English translated:
"Stéphane Franke, the German long-distance runner and later sports director, was involved in a doping-related controversy during the late 1990s, though he was never officially suspended for drug use. In 1998, Franke was European 10,000 m bronze medalist in Budapest. Around the same time, his coach, Isabelle Baumann, was implicated in a doping scandal after testing positive for nandrolone. Allegations arose that Franke and his trainee, steeplechase champion Damian Kallabis, had tampered with Baumann’s toothpaste during a training camp in St. Moritz, allegedly to mask the presence of banned substance. Franke consistently denied any wrongdoing, calling the accusations a “witch hunt”. Separately, in December 1998, the German Athletics Federation (DLV) banned the use of plasma substitutes such as HES after Franke and Kallabis were quoted as having used them during the European Championships in Budapest. HES was not on the banned substances list at the time, but it was used to counter the blood‑thinning effects of erythropoietin (EPO), a banned blood‑doping agent. Franke and Kallabis both denied using EPO and stated they were willing to submit to blood tests. While these incidents cast a shadow over Franke’s career and his relationship with Baumann, there is no record of him being suspended from competition for doping violations. His career ended in 1995, and he later became a coach and sports administrator."
He and Damian Kallabis had a bit of an "incidence" at one point.
Franke was a cancer victim at age 47.
Franke passed away with lymphatic cancer. If you Google (or med search) "causes" you'll not see any links to use of peds. Just very unlucky. Kallabis retired early to focus on his tech career...big money...(Polish origin, big work ethic) I'm guessing he's a multiple millionaire now, in euros. A lot more than he could earn in athletics.
The innuendo, at times, without basis.
I didn't link Franke's cancer to anything. It was just a point of fact. What was also a point of fact was Kallabis and Franke having an incident.
Hey, that’s great! They’re 4th and 5th at the moment. By the end of the year they probably won’t even be in the top 30. Those times would have barely made the top 25 last year. Sorry folks, a bouncy-shoe sub 13:00 is not the same.
Hey, that’s great! They’re 4th and 5th at the moment. By the end of the year they probably won’t even be in the top 30. Those times would have barely made the top 25 last year. Sorry folks, a bouncy-shoe sub 13:00 is not the same.
I thought stack height for spikes quite limited ...25mm, road shoes 40mm.
When Ritz ran 12:56.27, I suspect his spikes were less than 25mm.
Ghost what percentage of the top 10 in the world at 800, 1500, 5000 and 10000 do you think are doping? It seems you might think it is about 10 percent at most.
He walould have finished within a couple of seconds of Wale in about 13:08
Didn't look hurt and was pushing for the win at about 4100m
It was weird
He was hardly protecting a ranking average was he?
He posted on strava that he “bottled” it. Seems like a mental issue rather than a physical one. He’s not really looked like himself this season since getting hurt/sick in Font Romeu
Typical Ghost… the sketchier the background and the doubts the more he doubles down. If you ask other athletes competing in the era of Franke and Kallabis they will tell you exactly what was going down… especially those who had also been at college in America at the same time then saw the progression.
Ghost what percentage of the top 10 in the world at 800, 1500, 5000 and 10000 do you think are doping? It seems you might think it is about 10 percent at most.
Difficult to give a figure in percentage terms but what I do know is that many people overestimate the number of people that they think are doping when in fact it's probably a considerably more reduced number. The default position for a significant number of posters and general public who follow athletics is that "he ran super fast so he must have doped." It becomes laughable at times.
Ghost what percentage of the top 10 in the world at 800, 1500, 5000 and 10000 do you think are doping? It seems you might think it is about 10 percent at most.
Difficult to give a figure in percentage terms but what I do know is that many people overestimate the number of people that they think are doping when in fact it's probably a considerably more reduced number. The default position for a significant number of posters and general public who follow athletics is that "he ran super fast so he must have doped." It becomes laughable at times.
So what I get from you is that you think others inflate the percentage of dopers and others think you deflate the percentage of dopers, but your apparent defense of suspected dopers is based on nothing, or maybe that they seem like nice people, and others suspicion is based on progression or fast performances.
He and his team/group of friends (Running Gags) have a YouTube channel where they have been posting for five years. Not a surprise at all given recent (since 2023) development, with fast shoes, fully professional setup (sponsor, supported by police, stopped working fulltime ~two years ago). Always extremely strong and incredible kick. Just started training consistently and results came.
Our team consists of 9 athletes who live in the Middle Franconia area and work or study there. We almost all start for different clubs, which makes us look like competitors on paper. But the reality is different. We don't run...
Well for the record, Bremm was 21 when he ran 15:03 in 2021, and to be fair, he had already broken 15 previously, but he wasn’t looking like a candidate to ever break 13.
but in same year he ran 3:47 and 8:09 which are a lot better performances that 15:03
Yup - typical LR. Let's cherry pick the bad result (15.03), but ignore the better ones, just to promote the negative narrative. Justyn Knight ran 3.47 and 8.09 (after 2 years of training at 18yo), and also 14.08 that year. He went on to run 12.51 a few years later. But of course that was the NCAA, where doping doesn't exist, but it does everywhere else, right? So no reason why this unknown can't get down to that level eventually.
but in same year he ran 3:47 and 8:09 which are a lot better performances that 15:03
Yup - typical LR. Let's cherry pick the bad result (15.03), but ignore the better ones, just to promote the negative narrative. Justyn Knight ran 3.47 and 8.09 (after 2 years of training at 18yo), and also 14.08 that year. He went on to run 12.51 a few years later. But of course that was the NCAA, where doping doesn't exist, but it does everywhere else, right? So no reason why this unknown can't get down to that level eventually.
The guy was not very good in 2021 at 20-21. If you are impressed by 8:09, well then this speaks volumes about you. There is a HS freshman who can come very close to this.