Well, it's Wednesday around midday so I guess he probably is wearing casual clothes and just ate lunch in the school cafeteria. I doubt he could run sub-4:25 RIGHT NOW. If he's in jeans or dressy shoes, I would say he can't break 4:45.
Okay but how about RIGHT..... NOW? Also it's Thursday.
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Didn’t he just run a 3:46 1500 about a week ago? That’s like a 4:02 mile. I love how people who don’t appear to know much about the science of our sport just think that Cooper is going to be a phenom at every distance. He’s too big and has too much raw speed (yes that matters. There’s such a thing as having too much speed for longer distances and the sciences proves it) to run at a high elite level for the mile or over. 59 second laps for four laps is going to be hard for him and I doubt he ever runs faster than about 3:55. He has run XC before. Look at his performances; they’re terrible. He broke 17 minutes for the 5k like two times. People make all these assumptions without looking at actual evidence.
I didn’t make up a race. I didn’t realize his brother ran that 3:46. All I saw was the message board thread title and made the assumption that it was him. I admit I made a mistake. It doesn’t matter anyways. Cooper still has a 4:06 pb mile.
All the guys you listed are at least serviceable, but you left off all the ones who are comparatively terrible at the 15 or mile. David Rudisha, Wilson Kipketer, Yuriy Borzakovskiy, Alberto Juantorena, Knadevis Robinson, Emmanuel Korir, Keely Hodgkinson, Jarmila Kratochvilova, plenty of others. It depends on what you mean by decent. Of course Cooper can run a mile much faster than the average person, but not one fast enough for him to be considered a factor for the Olympics, WCs, or even the qualifying races. The speed orientated types are hardly ever great at the mile. Their endurance declines really quickly with distance. You should read my earlier post.
A few of these guys just flat-out didn’t run it. There’s a difference between “can Cooper make a US team in the 1500” which means 3:30 shape vs can he break 4 and by how much (as a high-schooler this is of interest).
Didn’t he just run a 3:46 1500 about a week ago? That’s like a 4:02 mile. I love how people who don’t appear to know much about the science of our sport just think that Cooper is going to be a phenom at every distance. He’s too big and has too much raw speed (yes that matters. There’s such a thing as having too much speed for longer distances and the sciences proves it) to run at a high elite level for the mile or over. 59 second laps for four laps is going to be hard for him and I doubt he ever runs faster than about 3:55. He has run XC before. Look at his performances; they’re terrible. He broke 17 minutes for the 5k like two times. People make all these assumptions without looking at actual evidence.
But isn't he The Second Coming in this sport? That's what the 400/1500 threads appear to be saying.
Thos fella’s jealousy is hilarious. 🤡🤣😂🥸😝
I doubt Cooper cares much about the 1500/mile at all. He may never care.
Love thinking about what he could do and we could probably look at equivalency tables and his training and give a pretty solid guess. 4:06 would be my guess.
But my knee jerk reaction is I don’t care because of his ability in the 800. Race up and down for training purposes. But the fact is he is the Indoor World Champion at a young age so keep rocking and rolling with the 800.
But isn't he The Second Coming in this sport? That's what the 400/1500 threads appear to be saying.
These people hype up every new star and delude themselves that that person will somehow be able to accomplish feats that no person before has ever been able to. They said that Athing Mu was going to run 1:52 her second year as a pro. Didn’t happen. They said Jakob was going to break every WR from 1500 to marathon. Didn’t happen and never will. Asbel Kiprop was supposed to run 3:25 and succeed at every distance. Didn’t happen. Jeremy Wariner ran 43 and won an Olympic gold among other medals. Surely he will dominate the 800 when he finally moves up. After all, somebody that fast should cake walk those slow 800 guys. Didn’t happen. There’s literally hundreds of examples like this. Matt Boling. Didn’t happen. So many others. Didn’t happen. Didn’t happen. Didn’t happen. The one exception to the superhuman phenom idea is Sifan Hassan. Other than that, it’s the usual case where someone has exceptional talent at one even and is pretty good at the distance below or above it, but not elite.
Ok, but Jeremy Wariner never moved up, so maybe his Olympic Gold is more important than your made up stuff in your head?
I doubt Cooper cares much about the 1500/mile at all. He may never care.
He may not care about the 400 either. Athletes generally care about what they are good at.
Yes, but you were told that in other threads, ignored it, and went on tirades that were fueled by your hatred of Americans, and your general dislike of teen prodigies, which is of course rooted in jealousy.
He may not care about the 400 either. Athletes generally care about what they are good at.
Yes, but you were told that in other threads, ignored it, and went on tirades that were fueled by your hatred of Americans, and your general dislike of teen prodigies, which is of course rooted in jealousy.
The tirade is all yours. Inclining to the view that athletes are typically specialists isn't "jealousy". Lutkenhaus doesn't care about distances he won't excel at. But anything that you don't agree with must be "jealousy".
He may not care about the 400 either. Athletes generally care about what they are good at.
Yes, but you were told that in other threads, ignored it, and went on tirades that were fueled by your hatred of Americans, and your general dislike of teen prodigies, which is of course rooted in jealousy.
Yeah, he was told that Cooper had no current sprint races to his credit, hasn’t races the 400 in about a year, no 200m races in over two years, that teenager Cooper doesn’t seem to care much, and he conveniently ignored it every time. Then he hops in this thread and acts like he’s providing a revelation. Incredibly disingenuous, petty man.
Based on interviews, Cooper doesn’t seem to care about the mile.
Yes, but you were told that in other threads, ignored it, and went on tirades that were fueled by your hatred of Americans, and your general dislike of teen prodigies, which is of course rooted in jealousy.
The tirade is all yours. Inclining to the view that athletes are typically specialists isn't "jealousy". Lutkenhaus doesn't care about distances he won't excel at. But anything that you don't agree with must be "jealousy".
See what I mean?
Those posters that note his OCD are also correct. He does scour the board throughout his waking hours. What a life!
He sure has demonstrated a lot of jealousy in posts about Hedengren, Ruthe, and Cooper. Deeply rooted problems.
Yes, but you were told that in other threads, ignored it, and went on tirades that were fueled by your hatred of Americans, and your general dislike of teen prodigies, which is of course rooted in jealousy.
Yeah, he was told that Cooper had no current sprint races to his credit, hasn’t races the 400 in about a year, no 200m races in over two years, that teenager Cooper doesn’t seem to care much, and he conveniently ignored it every time. Then he hops in this thread and acts like he’s providing a revelation. Incredibly disingenuous, petty man.
Based on interviews, Cooper doesn’t seem to care about the mile.
Based on his times he doesn't care about the mile. So why does he only care about the 800? For the same reason he doesn't care about the 100 or the 5k.
The tirade is all yours. Inclining to the view that athletes are typically specialists isn't "jealousy". Lutkenhaus doesn't care about distances he won't excel at. But anything that you don't agree with must be "jealousy".
See what I mean?
Those posters that note his OCD are also correct. He does scour the board throughout his waking hours. What a life!
He sure has demonstrated a lot of jealousy in posts about Hedengren, Ruthe, and Cooper. Deeply rooted problems.
Sorry - remind us what is his best mile time and 400 time? I think you should go on the Gout thread and tell us what he's going to run over the 800. Or how Hocker is going to run 1:42 for the 800.
Those posters that note his OCD are also correct. He does scour the board throughout his waking hours. What a life!
He sure has demonstrated a lot of jealousy in posts about Hedengren, Ruthe, and Cooper. Deeply rooted problems.
Sorry - remind us what is his best mile time and 400 time? I think you should go on the Gout thread and tell us what he's going to run over the 800. Or how Hocker is going to run 1:42 for the 800.
Sorry - remind us what is his best mile time and 400 time? I think you should go on the Gout thread and tell us what he's going to run over the 800. Or how Hocker is going to run 1:42 for the 800.
You’re really struggling now. lol
Hardly. You haven't come up with any times he has run over the mile or the 400 that show real ability over those distances. Only in the fairyland of Letsrun is it believed athletes can excel at every distance.
Hardly. You haven't come up with any times he has run over the mile or the 400 that show real ability over those distances. Only in the fairyland of Letsrun is it believed athletes can excel at every distance.
Strawman as usual.
Shaddup until Cooper actually runs some 200/400 races again. If he runs them again. Same goes for the 1500. Using races he hasn’t run since 9th and 10th grade is ridiculous.