Ryan Hagan DIII record 3:38.67

I believe Hagan is clean but there's no way that Hagan is paying full tuition at Geneseo. He is definitely on some of those D3 athletic scholarships known as "leadership grants" and the like.

This goes for Clevenger too.

Ryan Hagan’s also from NY so like a 99% chance he also got some sort of in-state grant /financial aid that you’d basically see in any other state.

Does anyone know the situation? He never competed for Georgetown right?

Was he even there a full semester?

No. Seth and all of his defenders can kiss my ass. It is overwhelmingly likely that he is, in fact, a lying, cheating scumbag.

If his psycho Mom and his greasy ass family law counsel want to come at me for libel, they can have at it. I'd love it. Discovery would be the most fun I've had since I went to Cedar Point when I was 11.

Bro, gas is back to Biden levels, we’re at war, and taxes are due. You’re doing way too much. You gotta chill, or you’re going to give yourself an ulcer.

Yeah, its called financial aid lol. Are we pretending the FAFSA or merit aid doesn't exist for D3 schools?

I know (former students) who are engineers and have other careers who chose Geneseo. One could have gone Ivy League but wanted the smaller atmosphere and liked the location- close to Rochester, which is a cool, little city, but not in the city.

Legit in that way. It's definitely not a community college. But then I know one dweeb who said the same thing about Binghamton University which cis one of the best state universities in the nation.

Yes. God sure knows the truth. the truth that Seth has been dragged thru mud by former ass hole teammates and now from a bunch of dumb ass holes in this running community. Rowan clean sport is a joke. a bunch of rich entitled ass jokes.

Rowan has ab average ACT of 26. That is higher than the majority of D1 schools, higher than 90% of D2 schools, and higher than 80% of D3 schools.

OK, I'll play along.

What's the truth then? Is the truth that every single one of the teammates is lying and that the video is a deep fake and that his Mom didn't try to defend him and that he was suspended from ISU for no reason and that he never admitted to taking peptides and Rowan did all of their due diligence and that he refuses to sign disclosure agreements for perfectly legitimate reasons and that Rowan refuses to respond to information requests for perfectly legitimate reasons?

**dragged through mud by former teammates *AND* his own mother, who confirmed that "he told the truth to the coach and ultimately suffered the consequence of missing the rest of the season for something over the summer after a teammate told him would help with his hip after having surgery."

Yeah alright champ, I'd have hoped if you're going to come on here and crow about the sterling academics of the Harvard of Glassboro Township that you'd know about pareto principles or power laws.

Rowan has an ACT of 26, great. That means it is basically the same Warren Wilson, Western Kentucky, Iowa, Duquesne, and a whole bunch of perfectly fine but average schools. Going to a school that has an ACT of 26 vs. 24 or 27 doesn't really matter, sitting here saying that Rowan opens a bunch of doors that the others don't is laughable at best. The difference is negligible and truly, truly marginal.

Going to one with a 30+ isn't, though. (Not that any elite school really uses ACT over SAT, for what it's worth.) That's what makes MIT or UChicago what they are, and those are the schools that open doors. The top 10% -- maybe 15-20% if you want to stretch it -- a tier that Rowan isn't and will never be in, those are the schools where people will make credible and specific decisions with regards to academics. Everything else, for the most part, is a long-tail wash.

1. Use SAT scores - it’s a much better and more popular exam

2. he reached out to a lot of other programs, including but not limited to Duke. Don’t know what their average SAT is but it’s higher, by far. They’re good at mid distance but shockingly weak at long distance and Clev would be their best runner of all time. Why didn’t they take him? And why did no other d1 want him?

Man, it must suck to be dragged through the mud by your own Mom. I'd feel bad for Seth if he wasn't, as said, such a lying, cheating scumbag.

This!

Being smug makes you look stupid. I said nothing about it opening doors or being the Harvard of anything. I merley corrected a poster who compared it to a community college. Most posters don't bother to look up stats. The facts are that it is better thst at least 75% of all 4 year schools. Thst doesn't put it close to an Ivy or Duke or Northwestern. But it puts it on par with Iowa State.