This was inevitable. I was hoping he learned a lesson after what happened post Chicago, but he clearly came back way too quickly once he was cleared to run again. I’m a big Connor fan so I’m not happy to see this, but he needs to first and foremost focus on staying healthy. I also think it’s a little odd Connor is saying it’s a fitness issue when it’s clear it’s injury related.
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smd wrote:
Paul Emerson wrote:
Mantz completed 8 high-quality marathons in 3 years (Fall '22 - Fall '25). That is simply an unsustainable pace. Then he added a 9th while pacing his wife. Back in the 1970s when I first became involved in the sport, the rule of thumb was 1 per year.
Bummer that guys like Bill Rodgers and Dick Beardsley didn't get that rule-of-thumb memo in the late 70s/early 80s.
Rodgers and Beardsley both chose quantity over quality, but they were talented enough they had some good ones.
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Kea wrote:
This was inevitable. I was hoping he learned a lesson after what happened post Chicago, but he clearly came back way too quickly once he was cleared to run again. I’m a big Connor fan so I’m not happy to see this, but he needs to first and foremost focus on staying healthy. I also think it’s a little odd Connor is saying it’s a fitness issue when it’s clear it’s injury related.
Agree. Given bone stress injuries appear to be on the rise, it’s disappointing pro’s aren’t respecting the recovery period required.
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Paul Emerson wrote:
Mantz completed 8 high-quality marathons in 3 years (Fall '22 - Fall '25). That is simply an unsustainable pace. Then he added a 9th while pacing his wife. Back in the 1970s when I first became involved in the sport, the rule of thumb was 1 per thumbs?
Nonsense
Whose 'rule^ and whose 'thumb'?
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smd wrote:
Paul Emerson wrote:
Mantz completed 8 high-quality marathons in 3 years (Fall '22 - Fall '25). That is simply an unsustainable pace. Then he added a 9th while pacing his wife. Back in the 1970s when I first became involved in the sport, the rule of thumb was 1 per year.
Bummer that guys like Bill Rodgers and Dick Beardsley didn't get that rule-of-thumb memo in the late 70s/early 80s.
Neither did anyone ever.
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malmo wrote:
smd wrote:
Bummer that guys like Bill Rodgers and Dick Beardsley didn't get that rule-of-thumb memo in the late 70s/early 80s.
Neither did anyone ever.
Actually there may have been advice about one marathon per year and certainly you weren’t paying attention if you weren’t aware of 2 marathons per year as advice being given out. I am not commenting on the merits of the advice, only on its existence.
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malmo wrote:
smd wrote:
Bummer that guys like Bill Rodgers and Dick Beardsley didn't get that rule-of-thumb memo in the late 70s/early 80s.
Neither did anyone ever.
Agreed. And the late 70s/early 80s guys were wearing slippers in their races and (what would today be considered) low stack bricks in training.
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The other poster was not making it up.
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+marathons+per+year&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
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Kea wrote:
This was inevitable. I was hoping he learned a lesson after what happened post Chicago, but he clearly came back way too quickly once he was cleared to run again. I’m a big Connor fan so I’m not happy to see this, but he needs to first and foremost focus on staying healthy. I also think it’s a little odd Connor is saying it’s a fitness issue when it’s clear it’s injury related.
What?
"I also think it’s a little odd Connor is saying it’s a fitness issue when it’s clear it’s injury related".
Did you proof read what you wrote? Hmmmm...last time I checked (and was injured), I couldn't train at 100%, thus I was unable to do the necessary workouts needed for me to be "fit" enough to race. Check me if I'm wrong, doesn't being injured directly relate to being fit?
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Hdkk wrote:
malmo wrote:
Neither did anyone ever.
Actually there may have been advice about one marathon per year and certainly you weren’t paying attention if you weren’t aware of 2 marathons per year as advice being given out. I am not commenting on the merits of the advice, only on its existence.
Ok, someone else who oaches modern day hobbyjoggers isnt what were ialking about. Most serious marathoner were, and still do, run 2-3 marathons per year.
I'd advise hobbyjoggers to run one marathon per year too. Two if they are up for it.
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malmo wrote:
Hdkk wrote:
Actually there may have been advice about one marathon per year and certainly you weren’t paying attention if you weren’t aware of 2 marathons per year as advice being given out. I am not commenting on the merits of the advice, only on its existence.
Ok, someone else who oaches modern day hobbyjoggers isnt what were ialking about. Most serious marathoner were, and still do, run 2-3 marathons per year.
I'd advise hobbyjoggers to run one marathon per year too. Two if they are up for it.
I thought you didn't provide training advice
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And Galen Rupp remains the best American runner of all time. Until Mantz places top 3 or wins a significant marathon he will be in his shadow.
How about Mantz race a marathon he could actually win like Prague, Philadelphia or Houston before he tackles a world major
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uh oh spaghettio wrote:
malmo wrote:
Ok, someone else who oaches modern day hobbyjoggers isnt what were ialking about. Most serious marathoner were, and still do, run 2-3 marathons per year.
I'd advise hobbyjoggers to run one marathon per year too. Two if they are up for it.
I thought you didn't provide training advice
II didn't .
Go back to telling us all how you coach Trinity University and spamming LRC with pornography and bestiality links will ya?
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He needs to start running on Sundays
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malmo wrote:
uh oh spaghettio wrote:
I thought you didn't provide training advice
II didn't .
Go back to telling us all how you coach Trinity University and spamming LRC with pornography and bestiality links will ya?
lol what?
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Uchiha_Naruto_Senpai wrote:
And Galen Rupp remains the best American runner of all time. Until Mantz places top 3 or wins a significant marathon he will be in his shadow.
How about Mantz race a marathon he could actually win like Prague, Philadelphia or Houston before he tackles a world major
Why would he do that? He was in the chase pack of three at last year’s Boston and 2nd place seemed achievable. Very, very difficult to win any WMM. There is always someone who has a great day.
But I think this forced rest or time off from racing is actually a blessing in disguise. Mantz hammered four hard marathons in 14.5 months. That’s a lot.
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uh oh spaghettio wrote:
malmo wrote:
II didn't .
Go back to telling us all how you coach Trinity University and spamming LRC with pornography and bestiality links will ya?
lol what?
Sorry, I know you're not Dahl. Your post was just like something Dahl would post. At ease sailor.
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whataworld wrote:
Dodging Klecker?
Dodging Rory.
if Mantz is not 100% eyestone wasnt going to let him be the 2nd eyestone marathoner hawked down embarassingly in front of god and everyone on Boylston.
First of all, we love you Clayton my dude, thanks for doing the heavy lifting on this blatant and unsolicited canadian troll.
Second, how about a few extra downvotes for the apropos use of the old timey expression that they'll want to get all stormin mormon about but can't.
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