Benard Kibet Koech, 5th in Paris Olympic 10,000, POPPED

When I joined this forum nearly 10 years ago, it was almost universally agreed that East Africans had a massive genetic advantage. (You can search through old forum threads if you don't believe this).

Now Kenyans are getting busted every week and a 16 year old Kiwi has run a 3:48 indoor mile (and just the latest and probably not the last in a line of non-African teen prodigies).

Who was the last clean championship Kenyan distance runner? How far back would one have to go?

In 2028 maybe all 10000m medalists will be American. maybe the brits won't be banned, but who knows if the others will be? Canada for not wanting to be annexed, Denmark for not wanting to be annexed, Ethiopia for being a sh!thole country in his view

Yes!!! Keep em coming in. Nothing better than seeing cheats getting busted.

Note to road race organizers: stop inviting Kenyans over to our races - we are tired of having cheats invited over every year to steal money. They can compete in the Enhanced Games if they want to earn money in an honest fashion.

Note to local mayors: tell road race organizers to stop inviting Kenyans over to our races - we don't want to see organized crime on our streets.

Naftali Temu?

If they can disqualify his Olympic results they can also disqualify Ruth’s 2:09. Grow a pair, World Athletics, and do the right thing.

Quite the change in the boards attitude. Redemption here for Mr. Coevett.

for anyone busted, all their marks should be wiped out for a number of years, perhaps an olympic cycle.

As posted in today's first Koech thread: from 13.3 to 17.2 g/dl. A whopping 29%, that's Radcliffe level! Details are in the DT report, page 5-6, link here:

runningmagazine.ca

Kenyan Olympic 10,000m finalist disqualified for doping - Canadian Running Magazine

https://www.facebook.com/marley.dickinson

Benard Kibet Koech has been issued a four-year ban for discrepancies in his Athlete Biological Passport. He had finished fifth at the Paris Olympics

Open link

Presumably letsrun will combine those two threads soon.

They can in this case, because the suspicious ABP tests are from early 2024, but not in Ruth's case, because there is no (known) history of suspicious ABP tests, only 1 positive test 5 months after her WR.

Koech's world best - like Ruth's WR and Shelby's NRs etc. - remains official, as annoying and sad that is.

Kiptum 3 yrs ago right? RIGHT?

Sit down Karen

Back in the 90's it was assumed they had a genetic advantage,because theyre so good,so numerous,and they train at high altitude. Now kenya is a byword for doping,and eventually ethiopia will be as well. They are still very talented,still very numerous,and they still churn out the runners like an endless production line. Not much has changed.The sad thing about endless talent,and endless doping,is that everyone else has to dope just to be in with a chance to compete with them.

What if Kenyans are becoming android like and producing synthetic EPO naturallynintheirnsysytem as their spexies evolves…

Pre 1987. From’87 on they’ve been doping like fiends.

36 downvotes.

Nothing surprising in a site where you find Jakob, Hocker, Ruthes, (the other guy Lindenstrauss or whatever) having 10 threads ...

but my answer is the following;

Odira and Wanyonyi are awaiting for you in the corner to collect your tears.

And Sedjati with his "rajla" will complete the work.

As say the Algerians:

Djaja tawled wa dik sarrou karrou

La Poule pend des œufs and le coq a mal au trou

The hen lays eggs and the rooster has a sore hole

At the 800/1500 really? People recognized that Sebastian Coe ran 1:41.7 and multiple Brits ran 1:42/3:29 on older tracks with worse pacing. 10 years ago much of the LRC board believed Morceli, El Guerrouj Makhloufi and Lagat doped or were highly suspicious. The massive genetic advantage theory was in the 5,000 and up not theorized across the 1500 ever. Clearly, Westerners have made massive strides in both the 5,000 and 10,000. Better anti-doping surely helps. However, your attitude that every single African is doping is just your opinion.

Not really. The Kenyan women literally won every single gold medal from 800-marathon last year. The men had the 800 titlist, two of the top 4 in the 1500 (and four sub-3:30 men), the 10K 4th-placer, two of the top 3 ranked marathoners in the world on the men’s side. Need we go on?

There are a lot of busts and Kenya clearly has a lot of athletes willing to dope but Coevetts argument has always been that once testing ramped up, Kenya’s track success would go to nothing. Or that athletes like Wanyonyi would be dropping like flies. And it just hasn’t borne out that way.