Putting my Norweigen Method training hat on for a second, Jakob almost has to race to assess fitness and adapt training load moving forward.
So if everything is going well in training, I expect him to race at least Lievin this indoor season. Do I expect him to do World Indoors? No, not really.
I should add, this is why he totally misjudged his fitness coming into the 1500m in Tokyo - he didn't have any opportunity earlier in the outdoor season to assess fitness in a race scenario and adapt training or approach. Ripping a fast workout like Josh Kerr doesn't really work for Jakob.
This is also why he got better as the 5000m rounds went on - he was able to adjust race strategy to his newly realised fitness levels.
I should add, this is why he totally misjudged his fitness coming into the 1500m in Tokyo - he didn't have any opportunity earlier in the outdoor season to assess fitness in a race scenario and adapt training or approach. Ripping a fast workout like Josh Kerr doesn't really work for Jakob.
This is also why he got better as the 5000m rounds went on - he was able to adjust race strategy to his newly realised fitness levels.
it's not like he went out aggressively in the 1500 to cause the flameout. Jakob always enters the season in at least 3:30 - 3:32 shape. last year his body gave out in a 3:36 race or whatever that was. and he was sitting at the back.
I should add, this is why he totally misjudged his fitness coming into the 1500m in Tokyo - he didn't have any opportunity earlier in the outdoor season to assess fitness in a race scenario and adapt training or approach. Ripping a fast workout like Josh Kerr doesn't really work for Jakob.
This is also why he got better as the 5000m rounds went on - he was able to adjust race strategy to his newly realised fitness levels.
it's not like he went out aggressively in the 1500 to cause the flameout. Jakob always enters the season in at least 3:30 - 3:32 shape. last year his body gave out in a 3:36 race or whatever that was. and he was sitting at the back.
Exactly, his tactics indicated he thought he was fitter than he was (sitting at the back for a last lap surge, which he didn't have). He said in post-race interviews that his fitness situation was "worse than he had thought", which is to say he underestimated where he was in training because he didn't have the usual race stimulus to feed back into his training data and progression.
So back to my point, Jakob has to race sooner or later. Gotta happen if he is fit.
it's not like he went out aggressively in the 1500 to cause the flameout. Jakob always enters the season in at least 3:30 - 3:32 shape. last year his body gave out in a 3:36 race or whatever that was. and he was sitting at the back.
Exactly, his tactics indicated he thought he was fitter than he was (sitting at the back for a last lap surge, which he didn't have). He said in post-race interviews that his fitness situation was "worse than he had thought", which is to say he underestimated where he was in training because he didn't have the usual race stimulus to feed back into his training data and progression.
So back to my point, Jakob has to race sooner or later. Gotta happen if he is fit.
You surely don't think there is any situation where he should be front running that 1500? Please.
He has a youtube channel and discussed earlier in the year that he is skipping indoors this year to get back to his usual self. so not being on the list for indoor meets was pre-determined, not an indicator of ongoing injury
Why frame it as "we" being worried? How about is he worried? It's cool to like certain runners but that's an individual thing. For a US-based site, it's not like he's on "our" team.
I love the way Yanks think that because a site is US based that all the commentors should be US.
You ain't who you think you are, mate. Your country is about to see what the world thinks of you. You're all alone, just like you want and you're gonna be in trouble, sir
This reply is ignorant and sources from the same stereotypical, generalizing thought patterns that birth moronic Americans. I’m most passionate about trumps idiocy towards Greenland, it must be stopped. It is not even close to being reflective of what most Americans want. A lot of the Europeans commentary, ever so eager to apply their low level imagination of all Americans as MAGA idiots, is applying rhetoric to broaden as much of this as possible to scapegoat all Americans. The US is going through a crisis and instead of speaking to the people smugly, I wish they’d speak to us with some demonstration of the nuance here. What happened to America with Trump can happen in Europe…and versions of it have been festering and growing. And For all of the U.S. faults, its presence and role in developing transatlantic partnerships has been successful. U.S. will be dead as weve known it if it moves on Greenland; will the Europeans be happy then, finally ridding themselves of the dumb Americans they’ve resented for so long? And long term, without the dumb Americans, how successful will the high minded, without fault Europeans be at holding themselves together without conflict? In their smugness it’s hard to tell if they have any historical awareness of what an utter and complete conflict mess Europe has been since…ever. Without the utterly awful U.S. as the lynchpin, I’m sure countries like France, Germany, and the UK will just exist peacefully and cooperatively for 60+ years like they have now since WW2.
Why frame it as "we" being worried? How about is he worried? It's cool to like certain runners but that's an individual thing. For a US-based site, it's not like he's on "our" team.
I love the way Yanks think that because a site is US based that all the commentors should be US.
You ain't who you think you are, mate. Your country is about to see what the world thinks of you. You're all alone, just like you want and you're gonna be in trouble, sir
The POMS and their nations sank a long time ago. Apparently this character is the voice of experience.
It's a good question so not sure why so many downvotes.
Because you can interpret it two ways.
1) He's finally realizing that it's fun and cool to be in great shape for indoors, and run 3.45 for the mile etc etc - but really it's kind of meaningless (and not very lucrative) if you can't get to the outdoor season healthy because of it. Honestly, no indoor races this winter would be good for him given the last year he's just had - but that's completely contingent on him finally realizing he is only human and can't be performing at his level 6-7 months a year accounting for indoors and outdoors. In this case nothing to be worried about.
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2) He still hasn't connected the dots and he does want to have a decent indoor campaign as he traditionally has, but can't because he still can't get past his injury issues. And maybe he does want to run Lievin, World Indoors etc but doesn't want to commit because he isn't healthy enough to. And then it's really concerning.
So maybe the phrasing of "still not racing" isn't quite correct because even if he was fully fit he probably wouldn't have anyway - but I get what you were trying to say and I think it's a good discussion starter.
Good post. Agreed, it was an unfortunate decision for him to run a hard indoor season last time, knowing his history of Achilles injuries. He should focus on the outdoors season. As far as I’m concerned I’m fine if we don’t see him compete before the Summer or even Autumn, if it means he’ll be as fit as possible
It's a good question so not sure why so many downvotes.
Because you can interpret it two ways.
1) He's finally realizing that it's fun and cool to be in great shape for indoors, and run 3.45 for the mile etc etc - but really it's kind of meaningless (and not very lucrative) if you can't get to the outdoor season healthy because of it. Honestly, no indoor races this winter would be good for him given the last year he's just had - but that's completely contingent on him finally realizing he is only human and can't be performing at his level 6-7 months a year accounting for indoors and outdoors. In this case nothing to be worried about.
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2) He still hasn't connected the dots and he does want to have a decent indoor campaign as he traditionally has, but can't because he still can't get past his injury issues. And maybe he does want to run Lievin, World Indoors etc but doesn't want to commit because he isn't healthy enough to. And then it's really concerning.
So maybe the phrasing of "still not racing" isn't quite correct because even if he was fully fit he probably wouldn't have anyway - but I get what you were trying to say and I think it's a good discussion starter.
I hope it’s 1…he is posting his daily life on snapchat and he mentioned doing an easy session on the elliptical but still looks like he is training fully with running as well. Maybe he’s going on the crosstraining trend that some elite runner’s are doing now.