The AIU said Korir tested positive for CERA (continuous erythropoietin receptor activator), a long-acting form of EPO that stimulates red blood cell production for two to four weeks. CERA has been classified as a prohibited substance by the World Anti-Doping Agency since 2004.
Chance NYC Marathon result gets removed? Based on the timing its possible.
I don't think banning Kenya as a country is the right solution, especially considering that many of the coaches, advisors, doctors, and athlete reps come from outside of the country.
The only real way to dissuade some of the cheaters is through financial means. How is that done? I'm not sure, but withholding prize money, fining athletes, coaches, agents, and sponsors might be considered. There will be no perfect way, and all of the above have pros and cons, but it's pretty easy to recognize that cheating becomes less valuable if it doesn't lead to a financial reward.
I see your point, but I think that the Kenyan governing body is looking the other way.
A total ban would remove the financial gains.
But, yes, WA has to go after the coaches and agents who are the suppliers.
I don't think banning Kenya as a country is the right solution, especially considering that many of the coaches, advisors, doctors, and athlete reps come from outside of the country.
The only real way to dissuade some of the cheaters is through financial means. How is that done? I'm not sure, but withholding prize money, fining athletes, coaches, agents, and sponsors might be considered. There will be no perfect way, and all of the above have pros and cons, but it's pretty easy to recognize that cheating becomes less valuable if it doesn't lead to a financial reward.
I see your point, but I think that the Kenyan governing body is looking the other way.
A total ban would remove the financial gains.
But, yes, WA has to go after the coaches and agents who are the suppliers.
It's a gravy train for them. They will only put up a front of doing something about doping.
I don't think banning Kenya as a country is the right solution, especially considering that many of the coaches, advisors, doctors, and athlete reps come from outside of the country.
The only real way to dissuade some of the cheaters is through financial means. How is that done? I'm not sure, but withholding prize money, fining athletes, coaches, agents, and sponsors might be considered. There will be no perfect way, and all of the above have pros and cons, but it's pretty easy to recognize that cheating becomes less valuable if it doesn't lead to a financial reward.
The problem is athletes living and training in Kenya. Doesn’t matter where the coaches or agents came from. The system currently will not punish the coaches or agents. The athletes are the ones competing and the ones responsible for using banned substances. If Kenya wants to do something about foreign coaches and agents they could. Pull all their visas tomorrow. They won’t though. That is why Kenya should be banned.
The AIU said Korir tested positive for CERA (continuous erythropoietin receptor activator), a long-acting form of EPO that stimulates red blood cell production for two to four weeks. CERA has been classified as a prohibited substance by the World Anti-Doping Agency since 2004.
So is it time yet to have a serious discussion about Kenya? If not now, when? Multiple WMM podium finishers, WR holders, and gold medalists. Not just a few- MULTIPLE.
Yes. Like, a few years ago. LR updates the list once in a while:
At this point, your "multiple" equals at least 14 WMM winners, WR holders, and Olympic and World champs since the AIU started. Plus of course podium finishers. Plus world junior champs. Plus plus plus, like multiple WMM winner Rita Jeptoo from before AIU.
STOP inviting and paying Kenyans to race in your event. Nobody cares about them and they don’t bring anything to the event. Every single one of them cheat.
Did anyone notice how peed off some of the athletes look at their post race interviews at World Cross? Maybe it's because of drug cheats denying them of top 10 placings? Time to make prize money kept in trust pending doping test. Time to out seedy European managers and coaches. Enough's enough.
I don't think banning Kenya as a country is the right solution, especially considering that many of the coaches, advisors, doctors, and athlete reps come from outside of the country.
The only real way to dissuade some of the cheaters is through financial means. How is that done? I'm not sure, but withholding prize money, fining athletes, coaches, agents, and sponsors might be considered. There will be no perfect way, and all of the above have pros and cons, but it's pretty easy to recognize that cheating becomes less valuable if it doesn't lead to a financial reward.
I see your point, but I think that the Kenyan governing body is looking the other way.
A total ban would remove the financial gains.
But, yes, WA has to go after the coaches and agents who are the suppliers.
They might possibly be looking the other way, but I have a suspicion that many governing bodies do, like when it comes to sprinting.
What would a ban look like? On the roads? Track and field, too?
The AIU said Korir tested positive for CERA (continuous erythropoietin receptor activator), a long-acting form of EPO that stimulates red blood cell production for two to four weeks. CERA has been classified as a prohibited substance by the World Anti-Doping Agency since 2004.
Chance NYC Marathon result gets removed? Based on the timing its possible.
Very sad news. Korir was an absolute marathon machine. His consistency over the past decade (2015-2025) is unmatched by any world class runner (at that slightly slower, particular level).
He's not a 2:02:00/2:03:00 guy, but at the - 2:08:00 standard his consistency almost defies belief.
World Athletics doesn't have the stomach to ban Kenya as a country. It would simply be too much for them to do this. But nothing talks in this sport like money, and major (and even minor) races should stop inviting Kenyans to come and run. No appearance fee. If they enter on their own, no money unless they've been the WA testing pool for X months. Period. Without the ability to generate guaranted money, and without agents getting a cut, the sport would start to change radically at the very top. For the better.
I've said multiple times, Kenya and Ethiopia have deformed this sport at the very highest point: making 2:02 and 2:03 marathon times look too easy and too often. Even when they get removed from the results, like Rita Jiptoo, you have their very presence in the race screwing with every other athlete's game plans. (recall Shalane Flanagan saying how her race plan was to try and deal with Jiptoo - she would have run a very different Boston that year, and other years, without a rocket fueled athlete to deform the competition). The Olympic Marathon qualifying time should NOT be as low as it is, lower than all but 5 nations national records.
We need to get the marathon back on proper footing and it is race organizers who shouldn't (but will) need to lead the way. If they have the stomach for it. I'm really hoping that WMM will back something like this and apply some pressure to the scale.
It is long since time for the race organizers to realize that the attraction of having a "top Kenyan" invited to your race is starting to even out with the embarassment of having to invalidate your results after the ban. The bad odor of Ruth and her "WR" in Chicago still hasn't gone away. Not at all.
Haha it is just deja-vu with on this topic isn't it?
Same sh-t, different day.
I'll say what I say every time - it's now at the point where even though there is no "proof" that doping amongst Kenyan athletes is state sponsored/encouraged/institutionalized (however you want to call it), Kenya needs to be sanctioned as if it was.
Because it needs a drastic measure to actually correct this issue and even if we assume a lot of it is unscrupulous, nefarious agents that aren't even from the African continent (and I personally believe this is a massive part of this issue) then let's see how they get on when they are responsible for shutting down an entire nations participation in the sport at the competitively elite level.
My guess would be that things turn around very, very quickly and never go back to the sh-t show it currently is now.