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2 hours ago 11/10/2025 12:13pm EST

re: Hottest of Takes

Hottest of Takes wrote:
This is why marathons should have a four hour cutoff. If you cannot complete a marathon in under four hours, then you shouldn't be running a marathon. You are not fit enough! You have not done the work.
No more inspirational influencers.
No more human interest and feel good fodder for local TV stations and run blogs.
No more talented age-group runners getting shut out of big events because walkers, charity newbs, tourists, and seven-star aspirants filled the field.

No.

The problem is those that are not at that level of fitness pushing to run way faster than they are really conditioned/ capable of.

Decently fit conditioned runners taking it relatively easy are not the problem.

2 hours ago 11/10/2025 12:14pm EST

re: NtC

NtC wrote:
Just saw a cardiologist for the first time, I'm not young but not old. He told me that when he visits nursing homes, the 80+ crowd has ~four times as many women as men. Said that much of that difference is due to heart problems. Get your heart checked.

There are complex issues at play. Men do die of heart disease at a younger age but after menopause for women the rates get closer to equalizing.

2 hours ago 11/10/2025 12:23pm EST

re: samcallan

samcallan wrote:
PCRF-Guy wrote:
Real quality post here. I’d add that a complete heart checkup should include an echocardiogram and a stress test. Not just an EKG
Counter: you are using a lot of resources to find exceedingly rare occurrences of things. The time and staff it takes to perform a GXT (what a "stress test" is really called) is pretty high. The test itself can last around 15 minutes with prep and transition to the next client adding in more time. When I was performing them in grad school each one took about an hour with 2 staff and a cardiologist "supervising" (he was in the building and available).
Doing that for people who are not showing any indications of an issue to catch that 1 in 500K is a huge waste of resources and could delay someone in higher risk of getting screened.
If you have some sort of indicator, then by all means, but the idea that everyone should get a time intensive and costly screen is bad economics.

Maybe I wasn’t clear enough. About 400K people complete a marathon in the US every year. Most of those are repeat marathoners, so the population doing this kind of event accounts for 0.1-0.2% of the population. If you’re going to do something this challenging physically, you should be screened. I didn’t mean everyone should get one every year.

1 hour ago 11/10/2025 1:11pm EST

re: ZIPP

ZIPP wrote:
One of the runners was within 100-200m from the finish and around the 3:25 pacer when he collapsed. He was treated immediately by EMS, however it took a long time for an ambulance to actually take him away. The weather and conditions were ideal on Saturday.

Did you see this yourself or read a post about it or something? My friend was just behind the 3:25 pacer at the finish and didn't see anything (but I'm sure in the last 200m of a marathon I could miss a juggling monkey on a unicycle right in front of me). Weird to think it was probably someone I saw multiple times in the race spectating if he was around there.

1 hour ago 11/10/2025 1:17pm EST

re: that's three for the year

that's three for the year wrote:
This isn't a good look to say running is healthy.
Link:www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2025...

How many people died in Indianapolis over the weekend who weren't running? Probably more than two. Statistically over 100 people probably died in Indianapolis over the weekend, near 250 people if you include the whole metro. Assuming a 2% death rate for the population per year, and nearly 1 million people in Indianapolis proper, and over 2 million for the metro.

11/10/2025 1:33pm EST

re: GD

GD wrote:
that's three for the year wrote:
This isn't a good look to say running is healthy.
Link:www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2025...
All exercises increases one's chances of death while they're doing it. Though two deaths at a marathon is unusual, we should expect more deaths at a mass exercise event than at other mass public events. We don't hear as much about people dying while exercising on their own or while doing other strenuous tasks. Of course, a marathon is very stressful, but we shouldn't overstate the danger.

Living life has resulted in 100% of deaths

11/10/2025 1:42pm EST

re: NtC

NtC wrote:
Just saw a cardiologist for the first time, I'm not young but not old. He told me that when he visits nursing homes, the 80+ crowd has ~four times as many women as men. Said that much of that difference is due to heart problems. Get your heart checked.

What is the reason there are less men? Women eat healthier/smaller portions? Or is it something else?

11/10/2025 2:23pm EST

re: goodadvice

Men have higher death rates than women at all ages, even in utero! They just aren't as hardy as the dames.

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