Why is anyone surprised? She drops out of every other race and queues up a whole line of excuses afterwards. This has been her pattern since her college days
Seems sort of nuts that a professionally sponsored full time runner can misjudge their pre-race nutrition so badly as to bonk before mile 18. 1:13 through the half seems right on pace for her. Presumably she had done a bunch of big mileage prep as well as long runs with nutrition. I don't understand how you go from that to getting your blood drawn on the side of the road and then jumping back in for segments at 6:00 pace,
Also the notion of "oh I didn't have my bottles b/c they removed them from the elite tables" doesn't pass muster. You mean you ran half the race with access to publicly provided water, Gatorade, and presumably energy gels.... just like every sub-elite marathoner ever.
Seems sort of nuts that a professionally sponsored full time runner can misjudge their pre-race nutrition so badly as to bonk before mile 18. 1:13 through the half seems right on pace for her. Presumably she had done a bunch of big mileage prep as well as long runs with nutrition. I don't understand how you go from that to getting your blood drawn on the side of the road and then jumping back in for segments at 6:00 pace,
You are probably answering your own thought here. Dont assume she did the nutrition preparation. Venters is an interesting person, and she sort of has a "i think i know best," attitude but as soon as she starts to explain her methods, you realize, "omg, this is a weird or WRONG approach."
99.9% of athletes from recreational to elites would have stopped racing if..oh, idk, they had to STOP IN. THE MED TENT for 20-40 min and get an IV inserted, bc thats rational and its your body telling you, game over and one could harm themselves by continuing, have a horrible day, think of the big picture, etc etc
Venters...nah she goes back out, and then is telling herself the important thing is she finished and pats herself on the back for being tough.
For elite runners, once you train seriously for the marathon, it’s even harder to go back to peak 5K or 10K form. The physiological adaptations are extreme highvolume weeks of 120 to 140 miles teach the body to burn fat efficiently, conserve glycogen, and rely almost entirely on slow-twitch muscle fibers. That’s perfect for 26 miles but dulls the fast twitch reactivity needed for shorter races.
Using this logic, please explain how Sifan Hassan is able to be simultaneously successful from 1500 to the marathon.
Thanks.
Emily is not Sifan, who is one in a million athlete. Emily made some poor decisions and got caught up in silly marathon training
Funny to hear people say how she threw away months of training and should have dropped out of the marathon. This is the small minded approach that leaves Americans behind in racing. 1. Training is never wasted, 2. The drop out mentality is always bad
Yeah, I was wondering the same. Looked strong through the halfway mark, then really started to fade. Could have been cramps or stomach issues, maybe just an off day. Still impressive that she pushed through and finished.
3 hours? She ran like 2:31 and had to stop often. She also had no bottles out it sounds like and when things are going South this could hinder athletes. She's young, plenty of opportunities. Where did y'all get 3 hours?
Emily is not Sifan, who is one in a million athlete. Emily made some poor decisions and got caught up in silly marathon training
One in a million? Not really. Hassan was selected because she is currently a more recognizable name for younger posters. There are many others. A problem athletes today face is being pigeonholed as a specialist of a particular distance. Yes, some body types and mindsets may be better suited for some events, but guys and gals have lost the ideal of just being a runner.
DYK… Frank Shorter set the 10,000 AR when finishing 5th in the 1972 Olympic final just 8 days before winning the marathon?
Lasse Virén finished 5th in the 1976 Olympic Marathon after winning the 5,000 and 10,000? It was his first marathon and was the day following the 5,000 final.
“Authur’s Boys”- Peter Snell, Murray Halberg, Barry Magee- trained with similar high volume plans alongside each other. In the Games of 1960 Snell won 800m gold, Halberg won 5,000m gold, and Magee took the bronze in the marathon.
Four time Olympian George Young (‘60-‘72) had a wide range. The year after running the marathon Mexico City he set world indoor records at two-mile and three-mile.
Funny to hear people say how she threw away months of training and should have dropped out of the marathon. This is the small minded approach that leaves Americans behind in racing. 1. Training is never wasted, 2. The drop out mentality is always bad
The dropout mentality is what lets you recover and race again without wasting weeks of recovery on an effort that isn't gonna pay the bills. John Korir and CyBrian Kotut are both sub-2:04 guys who DNFed Chicago (both Kenyan, so it doesn't seem like this is an American mindset)
3 hours? She ran like 2:31 and had to stop often. She also had no bottles out it sounds like and when things are going South this could hinder athletes. She's young, plenty of opportunities. Where did y'all get 3 hours?
She posted a story in Toronto, and is now listed in the app for the marathon. Looks like she’s taking another stab at it! Don’t know if it’s the best choice, but I’m excited to see what she can do without stops.
She posted a story in Toronto, and is now listed in the app for the marathon. Looks like she’s taking another stab at it! Don’t know if it’s the best choice, but I’m excited to see what she can do without stops.
She posted a story in Toronto, and is now listed in the app for the marathon. Looks like she’s taking another stab at it! Don’t know if it’s the best choice, but I’m excited to see what she can do without stops.
She dropped out before halfway. She is uncoachable.