Lastly, I went to a private high school for 3 years, and transferred to my local public high school for my senior year. 40 years later I can tell you there's not much difference in the lives of those that graduated from public school compared to the private school kids. Those that have the motivation to succeed will find a way to succeed.
These days private schools are generally low tech, while public schools give you a tablet starting in kindergarten. We will see (probably sooner than 40 years) which is the better approach.
Totally agreed. CIF needs 2 divisions, private and public. Enough with the cheating archdioses covering up Jserras and Jesuits. Let em compete against each other ala enhanced games. It's a rigged system that hurts public schools.
Better get used to it. Pay to play is what conservatives support in education. You can read about it in the Project 2025 playbook, it's been known for years they were going to defund federal support then push for charter schools to replace public ones.
They believe public schools infringe on a corporations right to profit off education. That's it, that's their belief. It's insane and demented, because they want a working class of idiots.
USA was already struggling with education, but this will put it back decades compared to other countries.
Not true. Conservatives would just like religious schools to receive the same tax dollars that public schools get so their child can get an education that more accurately reflects their value system. Everyone pays taxes, so everyone should benefit from funds set aside for educating the young: public as well as religious. Let’s be honest: a lot of left wing school districts try to promote an ethos akin to a religion anyhow. I have done a lot of work for charters over the years. Some provide some of the best educational opportunities around (in Colorado many of the top academic schools are charters). Others prey upon the system by providing what amounts to voluntary segregation with poor results (saw a lot of this in California).
I'm in Norcal. A lot of private schools in my area and honestly all of CA are notorious for cheating the system and recruiting kids, convincing them to transfer out of their homeschool, etc. They try to hide it as much as possible but it's painfully obvious. I'm sure it's the same at other states too.
Private schools are just "pay to win." Any remotely talented kid who is also affluent could simply just ditch his hometown to join a comparable program with a group of other talented runners doing the same thing. Just unfair garbage these schools.
Meanwhile you have public schools that get what they get depending on the area they're in, and work with what they have. The total opposite situation. Yet these private schools can compete against them.
First of all recruiting kids to private schools is not cheating. Kids have the option. And secondly at least in many states public school teams do not compete with private schools all season until the final state meet. Nothing wrong with that.
I'm in Norcal. A lot of private schools in my area and honestly all of CA are notorious for cheating the system and recruiting kids, convincing them to transfer out of their homeschool, etc. They try to hide it as much as possible but it's painfully obvious. I'm sure it's the same at other states too.
Private schools are just "pay to win." Any remotely talented kid who is also affluent could simply just ditch his hometown to join a comparable program with a group of other talented runners doing the same thing. Just unfair garbage these schools.
Meanwhile you have public schools that get what they get depending on the area they're in, and work with what they have. The total opposite situation. Yet these private schools can compete against them.
First of all recruiting kids to private schools is not cheating. Kids have the option. And secondly at least in many states public school teams do not compete with private schools all season until the final state meet. Nothing wrong with that.
Recruiting to any CIF school is technically verboten. And in CA--and most states, I believe--privates and gov't schools compete against each other all season.
Totally agreed. CIF needs 2 divisions, private and public. Enough with the cheating archdioses covering up Jserras and Jesuits. Let em compete against each other ala enhanced games. It's a rigged system that hurts public schools.
JSerra does not fall under Orange Diocese rules and regs so there's no cheating on what you're claiming. All said, parents ultimately decide how good of an education their kids get and you're overlooking parents are trying to limit the amount of social indoctrination (especially California) that is shoved down the kids throats. The athletic component is not always the priority and as a parent of private schooled kids, if you don't consider that you're not looking at this as a parent would.
Prospective Parent: “Your campus is beautiful and I am impressed with your academics and sports. Please list three reasons why my child should enroll at Saint Faith of the Immaculate Threshold?”.
Evil Admissions Officer: “We don’t have nor need metal detectors, any student that threatens violence is immediately expelled and turned over to the District Attorney, plus there has never been a felony or serious misdemeanor committed on our grounds in over 50 years.”.
Prospective Parent: “Who do I make this application deposit check to?”.
My kids go to a private school. The private schools in our area are more organized than the public schools, participation in sports or other areas (band, chorus, theatre, etc.) are expected and the coaching is better. It really astounds me that a school our size (~500 total HS) routinely beats public schools with 2000-2500 students to pull from. They should crush us.
Difference is private school often has 75-90% motivated, even required participation in sports, while the big public might have 20% voluntary participation.
Also if the private school offers scholarships or recruits for your sport, the talent level might be quite high.
Let's say it's no accident that Union Catholic and CBA do so well in NJ.
On the other hand there are plenty of private/prep schools with no priority on athletics that just build teams from their academic student body. Many of them are just awful, as they likely would be based on standard demographics.
Many states separate private and public. I have no issue with these schools, it's just important to know what you are up against.
OP makes a point about norcal. When I lived there the private schools dominated track every single year and still do. But the state I'm in now, that's not the case. Don't know why it differs from state to state but the private schools are just another school here.
Better get used to it. Pay to play is what conservatives support in education. You can read about it in the Project 2025 playbook, it's been known for years they were going to defund federal support then push for charter schools to replace public ones.
They believe public schools infringe on a corporations right to profit off education. That's it, that's their belief. It's insane and demented, because they want a working class of idiots.
USA was already struggling with education, but this will put it back decades compared to other countries.
Not true. Conservatives would just like religious schools to receive the same tax dollars that public schools get so their child can get an education that more accurately reflects their value system. Everyone pays taxes, so everyone should benefit from funds set aside for educating the young: public as well as religious. Let’s be honest: a lot of left wing school districts try to promote an ethos akin to a religion anyhow. I have done a lot of work for charters over the years. Some provide some of the best educational opportunities around (in Colorado many of the top academic schools are charters). Others prey upon the system by providing what amounts to voluntary segregation with poor results (saw a lot of this in California).
Schools with the most promising students perform the best. It has nothing to do with the school itself.
I'm in Vegas. Other than Bishop Gorman football (close to top in the nation year after year), none of the private schools seems to dominate any particular sport; it's usually the other way around. Hard to compete with the much larger public schools, they just have superior numbers.