People everywhere losing their jobs for saying anything negative about Charlie Kirk

dotd wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

My niece works at a university in the student discipline office. When they set up a Turning Point USA chapter on their campus, all hell broke loose. TPUSA members go around constantly making complaints against professors who make the slightest left leaning comment in class. They disrupt class discussions by spewing hateful rhetoric on race, LGBTQ people and women. When professors try to reign them in or admonish them for disrupting the class, they go and file complaints claiming that their free speech rights were violated and the professor is biased. The whole point of TPUSA was never about free speech and respectful debate. It was about turning college campuses into strongholds for white right wing students, attacking left leaning students and faculty and forcing any left leaning faculty out.

Wow what a backwards world you live in. Literally the opposite happens on every public college campus.

Man oh man wrote:

dotd wrote:

Wow what a backwards world you live in. Literally the opposite happens on every public college campus.

I wouldn’t quite go with “literally the opposite,” which I’d take to be that TPUSA students never lodge such complaints and instead go around attempting to uphold all students’ freedom of speech.

Of course, you have in mind the innumerable complaints lodged by left-wing students for various reasons, which can have a chilling effect on speech and undermine a school’s mission of free inquiry. The guy seems to see the mote in the right’s eye while neglecting the beam in the left’s in that regard, though.

But even though his case seems overblown, I believe you can find organizations like FIRE noting that there have been rising amounts of concerns like this from the right too.

Precious Roy wrote:

Man oh man wrote:

I wouldn’t quite go with “literally the opposite,” which I’d take to be that TPUSA students never lodge such complaints and instead go around attempting to uphold all students’ freedom of speech.

Of course, you have in mind the innumerable complaints lodged by left-wing students for various reasons, which can have a chilling effect on speech and undermine a school’s mission of free inquiry. The guy seems to see the mote in the right’s eye while neglecting the beam in the left’s in that regard, though.

But even though his case seems overblown, I believe you can find organizations like FIRE noting that there have been rising amounts of concerns like this from the right too.

Not making up stuff. TPUSA even has a website for there "professor watchlist". Anyone who gets on there faces an onslaught of complaints and attacks on social media.

Precious Roy wrote:

Man oh man wrote:

I wouldn’t quite go with “literally the opposite,” which I’d take to be that TPUSA students never lodge such complaints and instead go around attempting to uphold all students’ freedom of speech.

Of course, you have in mind the innumerable complaints lodged by left-wing students for various reasons, which can have a chilling effect on speech and undermine a school’s mission of free inquiry. The guy seems to see the mote in the right’s eye while neglecting the beam in the left’s in that regard, though.

But even though his case seems overblown, I believe you can find organizations like FIRE noting that there have been rising amounts of concerns like this from the right too.

Not making up stuff. TPUSA even has a website for there "professor watchlist". Anyone who gets on there faces an onslaught of complaints and attacks on social media.

Man oh man wrote:

See this a lot from knuckleheads across the political spectrum here: wild distortion of fact.

”for saying anything.” Really, now?

I think “for gleefully rejoicing in the murder of the man” or “for callously making jokes about the murder of the man” is more accurate.

are you going to provide examples of anyone who lost their job over deciding to post something like “It’s tragic that he died but he said [insert thing that person would disagree with].”

I think that last item would be in poor taste, and it’s very different from what I would consider appropriate, which is simply “This is a horrible event and an unconscionable act of violence. My heart goes out to his family.” Full stop.

But even though I’d disagree with the people posting in poor taste, I wouldn’t necessarily consider them displaying highly questionable values or antisocial begavior. And I haven’t seen any such people facing serious consequences for it.