He should accept he is a 3k/5k/10k guy and not a championship miler. Just won't let go of the dream becasue it's his identity. No matter how many times he gets outkicked.
Prior to his injury, in his last 3 competitions this year, he:
1. Broke the WR in the mile and 1500 (same race).
2. Won a European championship 1500.
3. Won a world championship 1500.
Would you have the same advice for Niel Gourley or Isaac Nader?
his peak performance days are gone. once you injured, it's nearly impossible to get back on top. there's always a person waiting to take your place. time to get a formal job. let's see, education about GED level? no prior work experience. looks too frail to work a job that requires any kind of grit. is there Walmart in Norway?
In a daze before the start of the World Cup: - A hope until it really doesn't work
Jakob Ingebrigtsen has no idea if he will run the 1500 meters in the World Championships on Sunday. He opens up to NRK about the uncertainty that has characterized him.
- I have worked hard and long to try to make this happen. That belief exists until I stand at the start – or not, says Jakob Ingebrigtsen.
Ingebrigtsen is in a good mood when he takes NRK to one of the many temples that characterize the Japanese city of Kyoto, where he has held his last training camp before the World Cup.
- There are historical buildings and temples here, almost on every corner. It's cool how it's such a big part of Japanese culture.
Tourists flock to the traditional city with the goal of experiencing authentic Japanese culture.
Despite the fact that the Norwegian runner also appreciates the historical aspect, he is really here with only one goal in mind: Getting ready for the World Championships in Tokyo, which start this weekend.
The Sandnes runner has been out with an Achilles injury since March, and the World Championships will therefore be Ingebrigtsen's first outdoor competition this year - if he makes it.
Because it is still uncertain whether he will compete in the 1500 meter attempt on Sunday night.
– I have hope until it really doesn't work. And as long as there is enough time, there is still hope, even if it is going very badly. Now we are here and doing the best we can, but we don't know, he says.
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Approaching competitive form:
Ingebrigtsen explains that he has had a very different approach to training, also around the testing and training camp system.
– Everything has been turned upside down a bit. In isolation, it's exciting to be thrown into something that you have to do completely differently. But we would have liked to have been a little closer to what we have control over, he says.
But he reportedly received good answers during the last week at the training camp in Kyoto – together with his brothers Henrik and Filip.
– So maybe it's a bit coincidental, but it's been getting better and better in recent weeks. And in the last week we're getting closer to something I can compete with in terms of form, explains Ingebrigtsen
Still, he adds that he has no idea what it will mean in terms of sport. He will only know that when he actually starts the competition.
– I'm very excited. There are a few extra nerves and a few extra questions that you have about yourself and your own form about what basis you have, he says.
– I just have to try to get the best possible result in Tokyo. But we won't know until it happens. We are just as excited as everyone else about what it will be, Ingebrigtsen continues.
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Incredibly difficult:
Ingebrigtsen points out that the injury period throughout the summer has been difficult.
– The biggest challenge in a difficult situation, where there is a lot of uncertainty, is that everything goes back and forth, he says.
During one training period he felt good, but then he suddenly experienced worse periods. It has been going back and forth like this all summer long.
– It makes it incredibly difficult to plan anything. That uncertainty about taking one step forward, two steps back, and then taking three steps forward and then two steps back.
Firstly, he is excited about whether he will feel ready enough to compete in the 1500 meters, and secondly, he is excited about what he will actually compete with.
– It's hard to say. Because especially in our training, we don't get much feedback on how our form is, what we've done and what's working, he says and continues:
– That's what makes it a little extra nervous before a season opener, because then you get the first answer to how good shape you actually are and what effect you have actually had from the work you have put in.
Ingebrigtsen is registered for both the 1500 and 5000 meters in the World Championships. In the latter event, he has won two World Championships gold medals and one Olympic gold medal in the previous three seasons.
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Tricked into throwing in the towel:
He says that the uncertainty has taken a lot out of him – both for himself and the rest of the supporters.
– It's not so much because of myself that I'm here – at least not that prepared – but at the same time, maybe I'm the only one who has had a goal of being in the World Cup.
When the team around him said that it might not be a good idea to go to the World Cup, he spoke out against it.
– The others probably thought it was a good idea to throw in the towel a long time ago. But now we're here, and we're trying, and we'll see what happens.
Ingebrigtsen highlights his brothers, his wife Elisabeth, and physiotherapist Steffen Vasbø as some of the supporters who have helped him to the World Cup.
– We don't know what it means in terms of sport when we are here, but we try to do as well as we can today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, and then suddenly it's – basically – a trial heat.
– For me, this is both the start of the season – and the highlight of the season. It will be very different. The plan is to take one race at a time and do each step as well as we can. Then it's just a matter of using the answers you get, and taking your confidence where you have the opportunity.
Not strangely but rather serendipitously in a way that my physics acuity allows or is destined or is thus proven beyond a shadow of doubt, the dumb mods deleted a very same comment I made to the extent of Filip and Henrik not wanting Jakob to go to worlds and skip is altogether. I keep a strict record copy of all my comments and here it was that was falsely deleted:
”Please Henrik and Filip, spare your little brother Jakob and let him be a father just one time this summer autumn!!”
Before that I made mentioned using my special ability to read human space-time prospects that Jakob’s training video showed him in emotional turmoil and forlorn hope and listlessness what with trying to lighten the mood every now and then with bland jokes and goofy philosophical lines and looking every bit pale and exhausted in the face. He is not in the pink of health and looks almost dishevelled. Looks like a man under continuous invisible attack.
For reading him accurately people got upset and deleted my then comments sigh…..well now I’ve been proven right bah ha!! The brothers never wanted him to go to worlds oh boy!
Jakob’s disobedience is going to tear a straight line through the center of his Achilles come the 1500m rounds. If he thinks he can handle 54s pace after all summer not doing much specific work he will die a terrible death. He may succeed in Tokyo and win gold but there will be a price tag to that!!
This post was edited 4 minutes after it was posted.
Is the implication that he'll definitely be in the 5K?
Of course, the 5k is run so slowly at 65s and 64s and leaves him only the last lap to notch a 53 to try to win. His Achilles will handle it well but 1500m?
He will die badly in his Achilles and other unconditioned tendons and muscles for trying to suddenly go 3 laps of 55/56s with a final lap of 52/53!!
I said it here first he will end his career in Tokyo by showing us what a courageous man he is!! Pardon the sarcasm.
Kerr will win although the margin is going to tighter with Laros around. But even I a physics champion agree with the older brothers that Jakob does not have the legs nor the training to stand on the start line of Tokyo. I said that 3 days ago before this article was even up and I had been proven right into the future thus showing my remote viewing ability into human behavior!!
For demonstrating such ability and proven right to boot albeit only into the future I got deleted sighs!!
And now I’m going to predict that Jakob going to splinter his Achilles in Tokyo if he dares run 3 rounds of high octane 1500m running or 3:33, 3:31, 3:28/27 with a default 51-52s close!!
And I’m probably going to be proven right yet again into the future….
his peak performance days are gone. once you injured, it's nearly impossible to get back on top. there's always a person waiting to take your place. time to get a formal job. let's see, education about GED level? no prior work experience. looks too frail to work a job that requires any kind of grit. is there Walmart in Norway?
He won’t be frail enough for any job and some of his grit will remain.
But let’s be honest Joe Rogan got on an interview with a legendary MMA fighter and surmised that for any athlete in any sport there is only 1 clear peak, not 2 or 3. That’s natural physics at work. If you can get multiple peaks in a single season and over a career like what Salazar has done with Galen and Mo that’s not natural to mean doped to the gills!!
Jakob could have had a longer career had he skipped Tokyo this year and don’t allow his ego to make his decisions. Without his Papa giving a couple of hard smacks you guys can see how poorly he makes decisions as Henrik and Filip will never lay a finger on his head!!
his peak performance days are gone. once you injured, it's nearly impossible to get back on top. there's always a person waiting to take your place. time to get a formal job. let's see, education about GED level? no prior work experience. looks too frail to work a job that requires any kind of grit. is there Walmart in Norway?
He won’t be frail enough for any job and some of his grit will remain.
But let’s be honest Joe Rogan got on an interview with a legendary MMA fighter and surmised that for any athlete in any sport there is only 1 clear peak, not 2 or 3. That’s natural physics at work.
Like when Ash Barty retired from tennis for years, came back and became the clear nº 1?
He should accept he is a 3k/5k/10k guy and not a championship miler. Just won't let go of the dream becasue it's his identity. No matter how many times he gets outkicked.
Prior to his injury, in his last 3 competitions this year, he:
1. Broke the WR in the mile and 1500 (same race).
2. Won a European championship 1500.
3. Won a world championship 1500.
Would you have the same advice for Niel Gourley or Isaac Nader?
The indoor WR in the mile was held by Kejelcha (a 5000 / 10000 guy who also had the half-marathon WR) for a while before Naguse and then Ingebrigtsen broke it. So some good 5000 runners can run very fast 1500s in a time trial setting. And citing Ingebrigtsen’s indoor wins against limited competition is of limited value. He didn’t even medal in the 1500 in the Olympics.
I don’t think there is any debate that he is better at the 5000 than the 1500 in championship races. Gourley or Nader would be thrilled to get one gold medal, but Ingebrigtsen wants two medals per championship (he really wants two gold medals). So while he does identify himself as a 1500 runner, and he is a great 1500 runner, it is perfectly rational to consider whether the 5/10 might be a better route for him to achieve that two gold medal goal.
It is also rational to stick to winning DL 1500s and WC 5000s. It should be about his priorities and what he prefers.
Is the implication that he'll definitely be in the 5K?
Nobody knows anything at this moment. However a few days ago Jakob said his chances of doing both the 1500 and 5000 are near 100%. I'm assuming he's doing both until I hear otherwise.
And he just posted this 2 hours ago on Instagram. I'd put money on him doing both events:
"Final track session complete ✅ Some faster 300s and 200s to end pre-camp here in Kyoto 🇯🇵 It’s been an unconventional build into World Champs but I’m ready to compete"