Cooper L first workout after 1:42

Dude just ran 3 hard 800m in a week, he deserves some recovery. And you would need to be insane to think a couple of easy miles would make a difference.

i got to admit I can’t imagine running 350s. I would also do 50m more….

As much as 5-12% of any group are bad faith actors whose sole 'utility' is gained by working directly against other's interests.

In shared outcome experiments where everyone or no one can win money, bad faith actors will intentionally work against the group to secure the latter.

My point is, expect 1 downvote per 5-7 upvotes at minimum, no matter what. and 70 upvotes should pull 8 to 10. That's just human nature and shouldn't be read into any more or less

I don't see what the problem is? Training isn't some sort of tough guy competition. Backing off is a welcome reprieve.

You, and many more, you are not alone in this thinking of course, will now have to rethinking and revalue the need for big volume to maximize the individual runner's results. This is the new modern way to think as a coach and runner, to look for what volume is ENOUGH to improve most , to look for a training level perfect suited to the individual runner where no risk of overdoing is inbuilt in the program..Less is more! 🇸🇪🤠🇸🇪Coach J.S

Cooper runs 2 miles in 12 minutes as a warmup and looks like he's straining at the end of that run just as much as at the finish of the Sebastian Coe-level speed workout that followed. That guy was born for speed.

As a side note, there's no evidence whatsoever that teenagers want to do less work than in the past, or that they expect participation ribbons. Those are inventions devised so that older people can feel better about themselves by attacking the generation (or two) below them.

Because he is 16 years old. It's MUCH better that he undertrains than overtrains right now. Risk is not worth it at all. He's probably also on a mental high after USAs. That can be mentally taxing on a person, even if it's a positive experience. He's only 16. I'd rather he shutdown the season now than overtrain by 1%. Did I mention he's a SIXTEEN year old who has been competing since indoors?

Lighten up Francis

He's also 16, and has been going since last august with HS cross country. So yeah, definitely the correct choice.

This kid ran an entire high school season, then competed in USA's. He's been racing and training hard for a long time. Including cross country, he's raced 30 times this season.

After running three VERY competitive 800s in a short span, I think taking a week of low mileage is fine. On top of that, he's more of a 400/800 guy than a mid distance guy. He's probably very prone to injury doing high mileage.

He's a 16 year old running world class times, I'd rather be on the safe end with him and keep him healthy than risk a burnout and injury.

Been thinking about this since he crushed 1:42…

if I was his coach, I would have him come through 48.8-49 every time, he has 45 speed and very good endurance. Every race he has ran pretty even splits. So if he can rip off 24.5s and be smooth about it, his body will get used to it, maybe the first couple times he will tie up and run 1:45s, but his strength will get better. I would be looking for the WR by the time he is 18-19, then after he has that, just go for gold medals

hm. I am going to start doing that. Its getting harder and harder to beat my fastest to the finish even on the diag!

I know I'd never have a chance at outrunning him. But for a split second watching him do that 2 miler, I was like, "Oh I could totally get him in at anything longer than 800!"

Then he runs a 25s 200m with less effort than I run a 30s 200m.

Many tracks have a 50m start line on the home stretch.

On the back stretch, there is a 400m hurdle marker exactly 250 meters into the lap, so it is right in the center (or technically 50m out from the 200m start).

Always amazing to see the athletic facilities of some of the large Texas high schools, in this age of the super HS football stadiums across Texas.

Cooper doing his workout in what is essentially Northwest's track / JV football / soccer stadium; with the varsity football stadium looming in the background. Looking at the aerial map of the school, there are 3 rubberized tracks in the two block area (2 for the HS, 1 for the Middle School adjacent). all with field turf surfaces. And an onsite Aquatic center and Indoor Activity center.

It is awesome that one of greatest middle distance talents the US has ever seen, has these kind of facilities to help him develop his incredible talent.

Many colleges would love to have that kind of athletic plant.

This is good coaching.

Essentially 400m worth of training/stimulus/effect, without getting honed in on a 400m time for the rep.

Support the aim that the runner lays off the pace a touch rather than running it at 800 pace.

is it two stars in the making, or made already? coach and athlete?

judging from the finish of the workout, coach baked it perfectly.

along the way, coach implied that the 4th set, wasn't necessarily in stone ... so the athlete can bail and have the session to be seen as good.

of course these workouts are red line, and very advantageous or dangerous.

the adaptation of course if for 800 type pace

if you train comfortably at 51 to 52 quarter pace you can hit 49 50 with adrenalin in a race

And really, what a joke that someone would choose this particular teenager as a case in point for the softness of today's youth! This is only the fastest under eighteen 800m runner ever!

Pretty sure they do it so it's easier for the coach to call out 100m/200m splits-he can just walk a diamond around the middle of the straights/curves, or just walk from side to side, instead of doing "the Ritzenhein square" and jogging around the football field perimeter.