His "having it his way" doesn't seem to apply only to coaching. This is a personality who cannot be differed with.
That sound like someone describing a self-absorbed psychotic who posts on this board using the moniker “Armstronglivs”.
You've just shown that it is those like you who can't cope with being differed with. You also care more about what I say than what Gjert -who is the subject of the thread - says or does. What a baby. Most of the other posters also effectively agreed with what I said about Gjert.
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I had this great idea that if I stopped my son from walking on 2 legs that he would eventually learn to run on all fours (obviously faster) .His potential was unreal (clocked him at 10.5 over 100 at 12 years old) . Unfortunately it created such social anxiety that he won't attend school never mind join a running club. Maybe my coaching clouded my judgement on what it takes to be a good parent but on the positive side he's damn quick at fetching the newspaper.
All-in-all, this is an all-too-often case I've seen over and over again with older family members coaching younger family members. In most cases I've seen, it eventually ends up in hard feelings. I've seen fathers mistreating their children that I wanted to punch out on the spot for their abusiveness. Even without the power dynamic of parent-child relationship, too many kids participate in sports under the pressure of family expectations. When I coached, I was always leary of over-involved parents. I had a family member myself that was a drone-mom that hovered over her son at every meet, even though she didn't coach him. He left the sport after his sophomore year of HS, and has a distant relationship with his family to this day.
This case is no different.
Soft kids in your case. There are parents that have great relationships with thier kids even sharing a live for whatever sport it is. What we have now is everyone needs psychotherapy if a parent is excited about their kids accomplishments. It's getting softer by the decade.
From what he said there, the above comments are spot on. He has a narcissistic/dictator personality, believes he should be in charge and he knows best in every instance. At least when it comes to coaching his kids. Obviously he did know something about training them, but it does sound like a bad way to grow up. So much so that they wanted to GTFO.
Im thinking of all the great college/pro QBs etc... or someone like Shedeur and Shilo Sanders who benefitted tremendously from hard coaching by a parent. Wrestlers, boxers...the list goes on. Kids just don't have the maturity these days to separate the coach from the parent. If you want your knowledgeable and/or world champion father to coach you, you have to be willing to be coached. I do think this issue is part of the modern world for sure...lots of snowflakes emotionally. To be sure there are crazy parents too...I can't figure out the Gjert thing. I sense at least one thing over the line, given all the bros hate him not for his coaching of them (certainly not right away) but after he started with his daughter.
From what he said there, the above comments are spot on. He has a narcissistic/dictator personality, believes he should be in charge and he knows best in every instance. At least when it comes to coaching his kids. Obviously he did know something about training them, but it does sound like a bad way to grow up. So much so that they wanted to GTFO.
Im thinking of all the great college/pro QBs etc... or someone like Shedeur and Shilo Sanders who benefitted tremendously from hard coaching by a parent. Wrestlers, boxers...the list goes on. Kids just don't have the maturity these days to separate the coach from the parent. If you want your knowledgeable and/or world champion father to coach you, you have to be willing to be coached. I do think this issue is part of the modern world for sure...lots of snowflakes emotionally. To be sure there are crazy parents too...I can't figure out the Gjert thing. I sense at least one thing over the line, given all the bros hate him not for his coaching of them (certainly not right away) but after he started with his daughter.
Let’s see one of the sons coach even one national caliber runner.
if gjert got me to an Olympic final I’d take a fist to the face and nuts with a smile
If you're good enough to get to an Olympic final it wouldn't take a fist to the face and nuts to do it. Most finalists make it without it. Abuse doesn't make better athletes.
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What’s done is done. You clearly believe in sticking to your own way as a coach. That shows confidence and conviction. Still, a bit of flexibility can sometimes bring even better results.
What’s done is done, and your statement shows just how strongly you stand by your methods as a coach. That kind of conviction can be a huge strength, especially in high-performance sports where consistency and belief in your system are crucial. At the same time, even the best approaches can benefit from small adjustments, especially when circumstances or athletes’ needs change. Balancing firm principles with a touch of adaptability often leads to the best long-term results.
If you're good enough to get to an Olympic final it wouldn't take a fist to the face and nuts to do it. Most finalists make it without it. Abuse doesn't make better athletes.
I think you are very right here -Henrik Ingebrigtsen was coached by Eric Toogood to his European win and OG fifth place in 2012, and not by Gjert. And having an elite big brother, and having Toogood’s and Marius Bakken’s training philosophy may have been more crucial for Filip and Jakob’s success than Gjert’s coaching…
If you're good enough to get to an Olympic final it wouldn't take a fist to the face and nuts to do it. Most finalists make it without it. Abuse doesn't make better athletes.
I think you are very right here -Henrik Ingebrigtsen was coached by Eric Toogood to his European win and OG fifth place in 2012, and not by Gjert. And having an elite big brother, and having Toogood’s and Marius Bakken’s training philosophy may have been more crucial for Filip and Jakob’s success than Gjert’s coaching…
We don’t know how much gjert deviated from Bakken especially during the competition phase but it always felt odd that he disibt give Bakken more credit. As Bakken says the basic ideas he used were all done by other people but he was the one who organized them into what we consider the standard today.
Spot the person who has nothing to say about the thread topic but only directs their comments at me. As has just been shown yet again. Too dumb to see your own-goal.
What’s done is done. You clearly believe in sticking to your own way as a coach. That shows confidence and conviction. Still, a bit of flexibility can sometimes bring even better results.
There is a difference between standing by your convictions and being a dictator. Gjert doesn't seem to see that distinction.
The term "coaching" also implies guidance rather than directorial authority that can't be questioned. The best teachers and coaches aren't tyrants. As you say, a "bit of flexibility" can produce better results.
Spot the person who has nothing to say about the thread topic but only directs their comments at me. As has just been shown yet again. Too dumb to see your own-goal.
I have posted under my registered handle, dumb man. But you, as the narcissist you are, had to make it about yourself. Too dumb to see your own-goal.
Spot the person who has nothing to say about the thread topic but only directs their comments at me. As has just been shown yet again. Too dumb to see your own-goal.
I have posted under my registered handle, dumb man. But you, as the narcissist you are, had to make it about yourself. Too dumb to see your own-goal.
You change your handle with every post. I didn't make your post about me about me - you did. It's a bit hard to be a "narcissist" on the basis of your choosing to talk about me. But on the basis of projection you easily qualify.
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