TUOHY OUTKICKS HENES FOR 2ND.............TO LAST

just an observer wrote:

not only this - but if you look at the results of her training partners Elly & Sam Bush - they ALL blew this meet. Something doesn’t add up… Tuohy isn’t going to improve training with lesser talents. She’ll take that leap training with those better than her and with a coach who doesn’t burn their athletes out before the “big” meets. Maybe it worked in college because most people weren’t as good as Tuohy even on her bad days. For reference she ran a faster 5k solo @ VA Challenge her soph year of college than today! Elly was running much better professionally before switching to her mom.
I get she’s friends with these ladies but they’re not helping her improve.

bumblebee wrote:

the confusing part is why was this training working so well from April 2022 through April 2023? She wasn't running with anyone as good as her then either. But she won all 4 NCAA titles she contested, set massive PB's from the mile through the 5k and competed well in the indoor pro races she ran setting times she still hasn't touched again.

Its clear that Tuohy needs to change things up i'm not arguing that, i just dont understand why something can work so well for so many of these women at NC State then they all stop benefitting from the training as soon as they turn pro.

who is the coach wrote:

I think she should try steeplechase.

you are wrong wrote:

Dude, Brazier just ran a PR at age 28 after 5 straight years of being injured. That discredits your ENTIRE argument.

you are wrong wrote:

stats dont lie wrote:

most mid distance and long distance world records are set by people in their early and mid 20s.

everyone has their own ceiling and they hit it at different ages, but human peak athletic performance doesn't come in the late 20s. if you're smart about things, you can extend your peak to that age, but it occurs much earlier.

Dude, Brazier just ran a PR at age 28 after 5 straight years of being injured. That discredits your ENTIRE argument.

bad poster wrote:

stats dont lie wrote:

most mid distance and long distance world records are set by people in their early and mid 20s.

everyone has their own ceiling and they hit it at different ages, but human peak athletic performance doesn't come in the late 20s. if you're smart about things, you can extend your peak to that age, but it occurs much earlier.

Dumbest post ever

what dumb what wrote:

you are wrong wrote:

Dude, Brazier just ran a PR at age 28 after 5 straight years of being injured. That discredits your ENTIRE argument.

Dude, he said “most”. Maybe you should cite more than just one example to counter his point.

tuoghy wrote:

who is the coach wrote:

I think she should try steeplechase.

This is pretty good.

I bet she does think about steeple watching Napolèon make the US team.

Touhy only 23, Houlihan, Hurta, Cranny, Andrews etc all 27+, so plenty of time for Tuohy to get her act together.

bladerunner wrote:

great final kick wrote:

What happened? People that she used to dominate in college are now far faster than her.

She won a lot of races, but she really wasn't dominant. She didn't win CC or any outdoor track championships her senior season. She peaked early and it appears she hit her ceiling at about 15 minutes. There's no shame in that. Perhaps she will regroup and improve again. Every athlete in every sport has bad patches. Maybe she's having one now.

just an observer wrote:

not only this - but if you look at the results of her training partners Elly & Sam Bush - they ALL blew this meet. Something doesn’t add up… Tuohy isn’t going to improve training with lesser talents. She’ll take that leap training with those better than her and with a coach who doesn’t burn their athletes out before the “big” meets. Maybe it worked in college because most people weren’t as good as Tuohy even on her bad days. For reference she ran a faster 5k solo @ VA Challenge her soph year of college than today! Elly was running much better professionally before switching to her mom.
I get she’s friends with these ladies but they’re not helping her improve.