donkey doug wrote:
Looking at you, Mcgorty, Tear, Hunter, Ciattei
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Ostersund wrote:
I’m curious what other “cool things” you’re expecting? Assuming you’re a non-EU citizen, you’ll also need a residence/work permit (this requires proof of a job offer BEFORE coming to the country). Unless you’re in tech, you’ll need to speak Norwegian. If you don’t plan on working, you’ll need to show proof (bank balance, etc) of being able to provide for yourself.
I grew up in the Eu and am very familiar with the pros and cons of each place, along with immigration processes. this wouldn’t be a difficult thing for me to do. But appreciate your thoughts.
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Hggh wrote:
…and how does Lumb do it?
Perhaps based in Seattle(?)/canada(?), and travels to Sandnes intermittently for 1-2 weeks camps?
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UTs finest wrote:
Ostersund wrote:
I’m curious what other “cool things” you’re expecting? Assuming you’re a non-EU citizen, you’ll also need a residence/work permit (this requires proof of a job offer BEFORE coming to the country). Unless you’re in tech, you’ll need to speak Norwegian. If you don’t plan on working, you’ll need to show proof (bank balance, etc) of being able to provide for yourself.
I grew up in the Eu and am very familiar with the pros and cons of each place, along with immigration processes. this wouldn’t be a difficult thing for me to do. But appreciate your thoughts.
Interesting, you’re more than welcome.
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kmaclam wrote:
Ostersund wrote:
You’ll find that Norway is very much unlike the United States. You’re required to live in Norway for 5 years before given citizenship. You are also required to show proficiency in the language through a test as well as be able to prove that you can support yourself financially. You’ll also find it significantly more expensive than the States. And cold- very, very cold. And if not snow, then rain.
Lol, and gaining citizenship here is easier?!?
I mean, for the vast majority of citizens—including, I expect, the guys mentioned above—it’s as easy as “be born here.” So yeah, not too much effort involved on our end once that box is checked.
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Ostersund wrote:
UTs finest wrote:
I live in the Bay so cost of living will be similar. Income tax wont be horribly different either, believe it or not!
But I don’t get ANYTHING here for what I pay, whereas there I’d get free healthcare (which I currently pay 800/mo for here) along with a bunch of other cool things. Might be cheaper in the long run, although VAT is pretty wild there (25%).
I’m curious what other “cool things” you’re expecting? Assuming you’re a non-EU citizen, you’ll also need a residence/work permit (this requires proof of a job offer BEFORE coming to the country). Unless you’re in tech, you’ll need to speak Norwegian. If you don’t plan on working, you’ll need to show proof (bank balance, etc) of being able to provide for yourself.
The social and cultural differences can also be incredibly daunting for someone socialized in the US; read up on 'dugnad' and The Law of Jante, just for starters. DEFINITELY not for everyone.
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donkey doug wrote:
The top 3 US 1500m guys are going nowhere, the incoming group of college grads are absolute studs, and you...you're not going to magically improve by continuing to do what you're doing. It's time to do the drastic.
Embrace the spirit of adventure. Move to Norway and train with Gjert and team. You'll get to experience one of the greatest places in the world to live while training with one of the best 1500m coaches ever.
Even if it fails you can blog or write a book about your time there. If it works out you might dip under 3:30.
Looking at you, Mcgorty, Tear, Hunter, Ciattei
Or maybe have little league poppa Hoey adopt you and by next year you can be a medal contender in LA.
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Teare needs to move to Steeple ASAP
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crinschler wrote:
Qatrain wrote:
Why not seek citizenship in a random country?
McGorty to Ireland, Ciattei to Italy, and Tear to the steeplechase?
McGorty would not make Irelands 1500m or 5000m team, stop with the disrespect
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UTs finest wrote:
I grew up in the Eu and am very familiar with the pros and cons of each place, along with immigration processes. this wouldn’t be a difficult thing for me to do. But appreciate your thoughts.
Kinda hoping this guy is real and actually goes to Norway and we hear about it.
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Tear, Hunter - neither entered the 1500m at USAs.....
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donkey doug wrote:
The top 3 US 1500m guys are going nowhere, the incoming group of college grads are absolute studs, and you...you're not going to magically improve by continuing to do what you're doing. It's time to do the drastic.
Embrace the spirit of adventure. Move to Norway and train with Gjert and team. You'll get to experience one of the greatest places in the world to live while training with one of the best 1500m coaches ever.
Even if it fails you can blog or write a book about your time there. If it works out you might dip under 3:30.
Looking at you, Mcgorty, Tear, Hunter, Ciattei
I'm a B tier guy myself run 4:19 for the 1500m.
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dmob8848 wrote:
Ostersund wrote:
I’m curious what other “cool things” you’re expecting? Assuming you’re a non-EU citizen, you’ll also need a residence/work permit (this requires proof of a job offer BEFORE coming to the country). Unless you’re in tech, you’ll need to speak Norwegian. If you don’t plan on working, you’ll need to show proof (bank balance, etc) of being able to provide for yourself.
The social and cultural differences can also be incredibly daunting for someone socialized in the US; read up on 'dugnad' and The Law of Jante, just for starters. DEFINITELY not for everyone.
You’re correct. Most others see Norwegians as haughty and aloof, but they are as a whole just very quiet and keep to themselves with no small talk (until you become friends). Taco Fridays will be a bonus, however!
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McGorty who has made two 10k teams? And I don't think has ever run a 15 at USAs?
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Ok, from what I read here, it feels like Americans may be too US centric and may lack adaptability. Let's simply track Lumb's progress instead. As a Canadian, he is probably more open minded and adaptable.
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Not at all true that noncitizens in US can easily get benefits. In fact, they contribute more to the public coffers than they receive from them: https://www.nilc.org/resources/overview-immeligfedprograms/
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my recommendation is for all to them to get some hops and start steepling. If the reigning olympic silver medalist only has a 3:37, 7:42, 13:30 PB this year, you can probably with a few months of actual steeple training, compete for a medal
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Good point ...? Martin, Murphy, the U of W guys,...although one could surprise us and grab a spot.
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UTs finest wrote:
Peach Pit wrote:
just show up at the track, shake his hand, and ask if he'll coach you. If he says no, enjoy a few days on vacation in Norway. If he says yes, move there.
maybe because I’m a few drinks in at a buddies bachelor party, but I’m thinking about saying YOLO and just buying a ticket….
You should lol, I was being serious. Worst case scenario you get a fun story and a beautiful vacation. Best case scenario you make an Olympic team who knows
edit: dawg you live in the Bay Area and grew up in the EU? A lil trip to Norway won’t break the bank, a quick google search puts a round trip flight at around $600, and my friend went on vacation a few years ago and it was so pretty he wants to move after he gets his phd. Go for it. If anything, flying halfway across the world will show how serious you are.
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Buy a $200,000 house and get citizenship and run for one of these five nations:
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