who have brojo reported for epo?

Take my suggestion about the cheat know as Asmae Leghzaoui she hasn't finished in the top three of a major marathon. She still a cheat just not this one.

Immigrant wrote:

Are you paying Wejo's salary or something? Maybe you would like him to bring you a coffee as well?

isn't that your job?

the ethicist wrote:

Immigrant wrote:

Are you paying Wejo's salary or something? Maybe you would like him to bring you a coffee as well?

isn't that your job?

SNAP!

Is that from the "I know you are, you said you are, but what am I?" school of trash talking?

double standard? wrote:

Although I understand that Wejo has the right to delete any thread he chooses, as it's his site, I would like to know why certain people seem to get protected? Threads about Eddy are usually quickly deleted - why is that, Wejo? Others have mentioned that threads about Salazar's alleged shaky past are also pulled off the message board. At least in Salazar's case you can somewhat understand since he never tested positive, but there was a lot of smoke during those AW days and in a sense the speculation and questioning of what went on during that timeframe is relevant to our sport right now, considering that Salazar is coaching some of this country's top distance runners. Wejo, would you kindly comment? Thanks.

East African athlete.

wejo wrote:

East African athlete.

Ok, at least you narrowed it down a bit. But you DO realize that by NOT naming names, and just mentioning a broad region, in ways you are doing more harm than good. In a way, you are smearing an entire region of top athletes. So people will guess "maybe it's so and so," "no, I think it's --------", "what about this guy", on and on and on. Is that fair?

I always think its worse when someone gives a broad accusation. I would say: name the name or don't go there. Why bring suspicion on a whole region of athletes??? How would you like it if someone reliable stated:

" I have hard proof that a US runner who has finished top 5 in US nationals in either the 10k or marathon in the last 10 years was doing drugs." Wejo, you, along with many others, would be considered a possible cheat because of such a statement. Would that be fair? No.

Since you've started this ball rolling, name the name. And I don't even say that in order that fair suspicion will be brought upon the athlete in question, but instead in order to clear all of the other athletes that were not the ones you are accusing.

(and to be frank wejo, I think there is a part of you that doesn't mind casting a large region of athletes under suspicion. I say that because I think that you believe that there are MANY other dirty athletes from that region(East Africa) besides the particular one you have "evidence" on this time. So I think part of your attitude goes like this: 'well, we can't prove this one guy is guilty, but at least we can get the word out that there are indeed many cheating elite runners out there, including in Africa.' I think that you feel that some people don't want to believe that about the East Africans, and since you DO believe it strongly, you don't mind casting that regional doubt out there. That is just my opinion based on things I have seen you write before. Name the name or stop this game)

Wejo, I appreciate the response and the thread about AW, but what about Eddy threads getting pulled? Or those specifically questioning Salazar's past? Again, I understand his situation is different in that he never tested positive, but the suggestion of drug use is relevant considering his current role in our sport.

double standard? wrote:

Wejo, I appreciate the response and the thread about AW, but what about Eddy threads getting pulled? Or those specifically questioning Salazar's past? Again, I understand his situation is different in that he never tested positive, but the suggestion of drug use is relevant considering his current role in our sport.

I'll answer a bunch of questions:

People are free to post those things. There are threads on both of those people and drugs on here. Eddy is a convicted drug cheat. Type Eddy drugs into the search and there are tons of threads. You can't search for EPO (3 letter words or less don't come up in the search, but there would be even more threads).

I don't think I am casting too much suspicion unfairly on a group of people by saying an African runner has used EPO. African runners have been busted for EPO in the past despite the lack of effective out of competition testing in the region. Being suspect of being on drugs is part of the game if you are a top runner.

Some have said the Africans are too "innocent" to use drugs and that is very condescending to them. They are human beings like the rest of us.

I did not see the syringes outback behing a random house where body builders could have stayed. A person showed me a video of the name brand EPOetin-A syringes. They told me whose they were. I believe this person. I reported this to USADA.

name the name wrote:

Name the name or stop this game

It's better not to name names. I'm pretty sure I know who the runner in question is. But just because somebody has performance enhancing drugs in their refrigerator doesn't prove beyond all doubt that they've actually used those drugs themselves. They'd have to get caught by a testing agency in order to enforce a ban. So naming names only serves to create presupposed guilt in the court of public opinion. And that doesn't do anybody any good.

There have already been several East African runners busted for doping. Nobody's trying to cast unfounded suspicion over all of them, as if they have always been innocent or something. We already know some of them haven't been.

wejo wrote:Some have said the Africans are too "innocent" to use drugs and that is very condescending to them. They are human beings like the rest of us..

Not to mention often pawns of agents who sometimes dont' even know they're being doped.

Also if you were promised money and were ridiculously poor, and weren't as versed in drugs and the world of cheating as we are here where everyone has internet, and your agent or coach told you everyone did it and ther ewas nothing wrong with it and you believed you would be doping too. That's how a lot of it starts.

That might be how it starts but it doesn't stay that way long. EPO is ridiculously expensive and if athletes were being supplied, it's because they're expected to produce a return. Successful, professional runners are not innocent. They know the rules and they are not dirt poor.

wejo, was this a male or female marathoner?

2006, has some new things in store for letsrun.com including the closing of our message boards. Thanks to a few immature posters, the boards, once a great resource for the running community, have slowly become a shell of their former self.

OiI Can Boyd wrote:

That's classified material son. In the interest of national security it can't be revealed.

Come on...everyone knows that it is Brandon Moen.

you should name the names as long as you are ready to defend a defamation claim from the athlete. If not, you shouldn't smear the name of all marathoners involved by this grandstanding

Since when have the message boards been a great community here? It's not as though it has deteriorated. Letsrun is as nasty and mean-spirited as ever, and has been since 2000. This has always been a hostile posting environment.

wejo, is it Paul Tergat?

Please only reply in the negative.

wondering wrote:

wejo, is it Paul Tergat?

Please only reply in the negative.

Perfect, we can name all the names and when he finally does not respond, we'll know and he won't have actually said it! Wejo isn't that's stupid.

Cheruiyot?

IN THE VIDEO, is there anything demonstrating WITH CERTAINTY whose gear is being shown?

If not, this doesn't have a hope in hell of going anywhere.

I believe Wejo when he says his friend is trustworthy, but showing some pictures of drugs and saying your trustworthy friend told you whose they were won't go anywhere. Sadly.

Doping agencies aren't doing the job, but the community can try to. Enough RDs and board members are on this board to potentially put a dent in this cheat's reputation and earnings, if we had a name.