God imagine how good he could (can?) be if he leaves gibby and goes to altitude. Was he also doing some school this year as well? Insane talent.
also if anyone’s upset at my gibby hating, just look at some of his workouts. Straight out the 90’s. I don’t have any personal vendetta against him or Harvard, but it’s way outdated
Yeah, Gibby has been an AWFUL coach. How could Harvard only have 5 NCAA distance championships the past two years. Just awful.
I think Desi Linden's improvement curve is crazier. Her PRs coming out of college were 4:27 (1500), 16:17, and 34:35. She went on to make 2 Olympic teams, win Boston, and grab 2 silvers at Chicago and Boston.
I know his PR in high school as a junior was 9:04 in the 3200 and like mid 4:teens for the 1600. I also remember him or Gibby saying he had never run faster than 56 or 57 for 400 until college.
Now he’s 7:29; 12:48; 26:57 from training at sea level. Does anyone know of another athlete who’s gone through the U.S. system and improved this much?
12:48 is an incredible time for him and I don’t seem him being any faster at 5000m had he attended NAU instead of Harvard.
How much benefit do you think training at altitude brings to running the 5000m?
The 2 fastest 5k runners Fisher and Young both are at altitude. Blanks needs to move high but an amazing performance if he has been training in Georgia. Seems like the New Balance program didn't work so well.
Dick Beardsley was unremarkable in both HS and college.
Although “unremarkable”, Beardsley was a standout for his day as a Junior College runner and received a scholarship to South Dakota State — which was a top D2 school at the time. He ran well there even though he only lasted a semester.
12:48 is an incredible time for him and I don’t seem him being any faster at 5000m had he attended NAU instead of Harvard.
How much benefit do you think training at altitude brings to running the 5000m?
The 2 fastest 5k runners Fisher and Young both are at altitude. Blanks needs to move high but an amazing performance if he has been training in Georgia. Seems like the New Balance program didn't work so well.
We don’t know for a fact whether Fisher and Young would have been any slower had they trained in Boston all these years.
God imagine how good he could (can?) be if he leaves gibby and goes to altitude. Was he also doing some school this year as well? Insane talent.
also if anyone’s upset at my gibby hating, just look at some of his workouts. Straight out the 90’s. I don’t have any personal vendetta against him or Harvard, but it’s way outdated
Yeah, Gibby has been an AWFUL coach. How could Harvard only have 5 NCAA distance championships the past two years. Just awful.
You're spot on. It's hard to argue with Harvard's success, a school with an abysmal history until now. Even with its reputation for academic fraud, and lack of athletic scholarships, as long as they have the "aid" part of the equation figured out (presumably NIL is taking up the slack), they will continue to prosper. Heck, even Princeton has stepped up in a big way.
Dick Beardsley was unremarkable in both HS and college.
Although “unremarkable”, Beardsley was a standout for his day as a Junior College runner and received a scholarship to South Dakota State — which was a top D2 school at the time. He ran well there even though he only lasted a semester.
Actually, Beardsley has never shown success at distances less than 26 miles, even in his prime. College events 1 mile to 10k .... Fuhgeddaboudit!
The 2 fastest 5k runners Fisher and Young both are at altitude. Blanks needs to move high but an amazing performance if he has been training in Georgia. Seems like the New Balance program didn't work so well.
Wait a minute, hasn't Blanks been a pro for less than two months, and never trained with "the New Balance program"? 'Splain it to me slowly?
[edit] I think I've got my players mixed up. 'Splain it to me anyway...
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The 2 fastest 5k runners Fisher and Young both are at altitude. Blanks needs to move high but an amazing performance if he has been training in Georgia. Seems like the New Balance program didn't work so well.
Wait a minute, hasn't Blanks been a pro for less than two months, and never trained with "the New Balance program"? 'Splain it to me slowly?
[edit] I think I've got my players mixed up. 'Splain it to me anyway...
Rodgers didnt start trading seriously until two years after college. If he had trained like a typical HSer, he undoubtedly would have been sub-9:00.
Doubtful. Maybe 9:20.
I don’t think any of us know the specifics of what training he did in HS, but we do know is that he had an incredible physique and stride for running. He had those gifts in HS and I can’t see him slogging through a 9:20. For 9:20 to make sense, he would have had a ridiculously late physical maturation.
I don’t think any of us know the specifics of what training he did in HS, but we do know is that he had an incredible physique and stride for running. He had those gifts in HS and I can’t see him slogging through a 9:20. For 9:20 to make sense, he would have had a ridiculously late physical maturation.
Rodgers was in high school in 1965. His "incredible physique and stride" didn't even show up until 1975.
I was being generous with 9:20 by a lot. 9:30 would be a generous guesstimate.
I know his PR in high school as a junior was 9:04 in the 3200 and like mid 4:teens for the 1600. I also remember him or Gibby saying he had never run faster than 56 or 57 for 400 until college.
Now he’s 7:29; 12:48; 26:57 from training at sea level. Does anyone know of another athlete who’s gone through the U.S. system and improved this much?
People are forgetting that his senior year on the track was 2020 when things got shut down. So his mile pr is from junior year and the 9:04 he ran in indoors in February looks like the only track result before covid hits. He likely would have run 8:4x and 4:0x without the pandemic.