Should be a cap.
My wife was watching with me last night and she noticed how many foreigners were participating.
Should be a cap.
My wife was watching with me last night and she noticed how many foreigners were participating.
20% is too high wrote:
Should be a cap.
My wife was watching with me last night and she noticed how many foreigners were participating.
“Foreigners?” What gave them away? You check passports, or was it on their uni? Oh, maybe it was…the brochure they pass out at every meet?
need gyfx wrote:
1) You know <800m there’s plenty of Caribbean talent. Are the coaches buy that talent too?
2) Are willing to count naturalized citizens or dual citizenship holders as Americans? How do you feel about Yared Nuguse’s citizenship? Or just the white guys?
Nuguse was Born and Raised in Kentucky, Kentucky is the USA. Nuguse is an American.
Track and Field has hardly any foreigners when compared to Men's and Women's tennis. There are many D1 programs where the whole team, 100%, are international students. Not one US citizen on the roster let alone an American from out of state.
International students wrote:
Track and Field has hardly any foreigners when compared to Men's and Women's tennis. There are many D1 programs where the whole team, 100%, are international students. Not one US citizen on the roster let alone an American from out of state.
Let's put a stop to that as well. you round up the horses, I'll get the tar and feather
I’m just going to get this “get off my lawn” comment off my chest….i support international athletes competing, I just wish there weren’t so many 21+ old freshmen. could go back to the days when there weren’t some many 21+ old freshman, US or Intl
ok I feel better now
USAtaxpayer wrote:
Will somebody please do the math for me? please. In the men’s finals from the 800 up to the 10k how many are Americans vs foreigners?
Look at the results on Wikipedia. They list the nationalities for all competitors.
The Americans that loose out are the Clayton Murphys. The diamonds in the rough that would be given a chance to prove themselves against the best via walk on-spot at a D1. That won't happen anymore. However, the best top talent in the US, the SMLs, will always get recruited.
Agreed
I support international athletes in the collegiate system. Certianly there is a difference between buying a former pro for a year or two that’s already world-class and bringing in an international freshman that completes a degree and is here to be a student athlete. I’m sure there are plenty examples of both, but there are differences too.
I’d like to know of any of these stats put together like in the 1500 above, which athletes were developed here and had typical college careers. it looks like o’Sullivan, klaudia, May, Sjoberg, and Scratchard have all been at Washington, Oregon, providence, Boston, and Princeton for their entire collegiate career and had incredible development along the way. Silan and Salma (Oregon and South Carolina) have each transfered but also been in the US for years. Truthfully, I think the women’s 1500 was absolutely loaded but also a great representation of what the ncaa could be. Perhaps other events have more examples of 25+ year old freshman or sophomores that are already world class, but this particular 1500 looks like great work by the women during typical college careers
USAtaxpayer wrote:
Will somebody please do the math for me? please. In the men’s finals from the 800 up to the 10k how many are Americans vs foreigners? These coaches are not good coaches, they are just buying their guys. It’s hard to watch tax payer $ at state universities go to developing foreign competitors. My question is this, do they feel proud when their foreign purchase wins a title? Do they feel like they’ve accomplished something like their a good coach when a freshman athlete from a foreign country comes in and wins NCAA’s? Shame. Please somebody do the math.
It’s been this way since the 1970’s. Started in the 60’s. I placed 3rd in the 1982 indoor 3 mile (yes, 3 miles. The NCAA converted to 5000 shortly thereafter). I was the only US born athlete in the top 10. BTW, I had a number of teammates from other countries. Training with them made me MUCH better.
The only rub I have with today’s world is that I was a walk on development project. With today’s roster limits under the settlement, I wouldn’t get a chance at a D1 Power 4 school.