When are athletes not training through, aside from during a championship event?
There are athletes who lay off their training for big meets or adjust it to match an event. Nuguse has been open about training to be more competitive in the 800. Kerr has revealed a lighter schedule around his focus races (why he didn’t race often in the past). From what Hocker has said he’s basically made no adjustment to last years formula despite much earlier high-profile races and racing the 800 whereas last year he ran one before Trials as an afterthought. I think it’s left him looking pretty flat at 800 to some degree and rusty in the 1500 until yesterday. Hocker is the only of the trio with aspirations in the 5,000, too.
I wouldn't read too much into these sound bites, performances on the track is what matters.
Kerr had also said in a recent GST promo video that going into Kingston "training had been going well, I was expecting everything to be nice and smooth", despite speculation at the time that he was coming off injury and sick. And we all know how Kingston went for him. So in summary, we don't really know what these guys are doing re: Hocker, Kerr etc.
All I know is Hocker got run down easily by Kerr with the finish line his for the taking, in an average paced 1500m (for these guys), when he should have been running away with it. This has happened to Hocker quite a few times already this season.
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I wouldn't read too much into these sound bites, performances on the track is what matters.
Kerr had also said in a recent GST promo video that going into Kingston "training had been going well, I was expecting everything to be nice and smooth", despite speculation at the time that he was coming off injury and sick. And we all know how Kingston went for him. So in summary, we don't really know what these guys are doing re: Hocker, Kerr etc.
All I know is Hocker got run down easily by Kerr with the finish line his for the taking, in an average paced 1500m (for these guys), when he should have been running away with it. This has happened to Hocker quite a few times already this season.
You say run down easily when he got beat by .09. There wasn’t looking to the side pumping up the crowd and fist-pumping like Wanyonyi vs Nuguse et al in Kingston. The other two 1500s, he was kicking from behind and not really gaining. He also didn’t lead as much. Yes Kerr says whatever before races but Hocker/Nuguse seem pretty transparent and we have workout/BTS footage that back up their approaches. Nuguse doing 800m specific stuff, Hocker admitting he’s not and sheepishly saying GST doesn’t like him mentioning that he’s not doing anything different to prepare for these meets.
Has that ever happened before for an Olympic champion?
On the contrary, EL G won every 1500m race on the circuit for years after all his olympique defeats. 0/6 is not a good sign. Thats not a sign of a legit clean olympic champion.
You were spot on back then, the real reason american mid d has fizzled out after 6 months of olympic post fever is because of diminishing ROI in dope. Never thought Nuguse could go from beating Kerr in an 800m and 1500m by a whisker to being 20 meters behind today.
One trick pony! Or doprd to the gills at the OG (more likely).
And before anybody says anything, USTAF champs have no relevance, they are well below world level.
I sympathize with this comment. Nobody has a believable explanation how Hocker is losing every 1500m and 800m race on the circuit so consistently it makes his oly gold an impossibility without dope.
What's the dope that he and Nuguse, Kessler taking? Say it now. Let's all be open and not hide like girls. I believe 5/10 commenters on this board have the name of the dope. Downvote for all I care.
I wouldn't read too much into these sound bites, performances on the track is what matters.
Kerr had also said in a recent GST promo video that going into Kingston "training had been going well, I was expecting everything to be nice and smooth", despite speculation at the time that he was coming off injury and sick. And we all know how Kingston went for him. So in summary, we don't really know what these guys are doing re: Hocker, Kerr etc.
All I know is Hocker got run down easily by Kerr with the finish line his for the taking, in an average paced 1500m (for these guys), when he should have been running away with it. This has happened to Hocker quite a few times already this season.
You say run down easily when he got beat by .09. There wasn’t looking to the side pumping up the crowd and fist-pumping like Wanyonyi vs Nuguse et al in Kingston. The other two 1500s, he was kicking from behind and not really gaining. He also didn’t lead as much. Yes Kerr says whatever before races but Hocker/Nuguse seem pretty transparent and we have workout/BTS footage that back up their approaches. Nuguse doing 800m specific stuff, Hocker admitting he’s not and sheepishly saying GST doesn’t like him mentioning that he’s not doing anything different to prepare for these meets.
Let's be factual and objective about this;
Hocker was behind Kerr in Miami and couldn't gain on Kerr much less overtake him.
In Philly, Kerr was yards behind Hocker at 250m, 200m, 100m and still edge ahead by yards at the finishing line. That was definitely easy for Kerr, he wasn't breathing much right after the race. Yes Wanyonyi is a different 'easy' but Kerr is also easy. Both are just as easy.
Can't wait for a match between Kerr and Wanyonyi. Id wager Kerr will cream on top pf Wanyonyi and let out a behemoth roar eh?
It's still impossible as their conscience told them they doped to beat africans. Africans who thought they doped in turn were tempted to dope. Dope dope dope cycle. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
Has that ever happened before for an Olympic champion?
On the contrary, EL G won every 1500m race on the circuit for years after all his olympique defeats. 0/6 is not a good sign. Thats not a sign of a legit clean olympic champion.
This is accurate here. Yet wonder how this board crucifies ElG at the first chance by raising his religion as a factor. I call BS on that. Look at your own Hockers and Nuguses first and ask how honest they are before casting aspersions elsewhere. 0/20 and 0/6 is a huge red flag for Hocker. His credibility is all but sealed with GST Phil.
I won't rule out anything suspicious on the table for Hocker now. He's not an El G just for sure so his poor performances can only be bad training or just maybe pharm experiment gone wrong? Not provoking just trusting.
Hocker was behind Kerr in Miami and couldn't gain on Kerr much less overtake him.
In Philly, Kerr was yards behind Hocker at 250m, 200m, 100m and still edge ahead by yards at the finishing line. That was definitely easy for Kerr, he wasn't breathing much right after the race. Yes Wanyonyi is a different 'easy' but Kerr is also easy. Both are just as easy.
Can't wait for a match between Kerr and Wanyonyi. Id wager Kerr will cream on top pf Wanyonyi and let out a behemoth roar eh?
He was a yard ahead at the finish. He literally leaned because it was .09s. I’m not sure if you are willfully blind? The last line indicates to me you are joking as what the heck man.
Because kicking in a 1500 race is equal parts speed and strength. Also you’re “so bad at the 800” point is being basically in lockstep with Kerr at the event despite having 5,000m aspirations unlike Kerr. If you were doing a double meaning on your Nuguse point there cheekily, fine.