2 days is better, and one d race is fine. but the money thing isn't okay. One 5000 is more work than the 100h/100 group is doing, just to start.
If I'm Grant Fisher, I don't show up without a promise of an extra 50k behind the scenes bonus.
We have merged two threads into 1. The other thread was titled:
And Jonathan and Robert debate have an article up on the changes. Is this good for the future of GST, a sign of panic, or something in between?
LRC Debates: What to Make of the Big Changes Coming to Grand Slam Track Philadelphia? - LetsRun.com
2 days is better, and one d race is fine. but the money thing isn't okay. One 5000 is more work than the 100h/100 group is doing, just to start.
If I'm Grant Fisher, I don't show up without a promise of an extra 50k behind the scenes bonus.
I hope they rotate distances for LD. Do a 5k in LA.
Personally, I’d love for long distance group to be a coin toss where they are all lined up and they flip for the distance and then shoot the gun. Probably not most people’s cup of tea, but itd be fun!!!!
2 days is much better
high school xc coach wrote:
2 days is better, and one d race is fine. but the money thing isn't okay. One 5000 is more work than the 100h/100 group is doing, just to start.
If I'm Grant Fisher, I don't show up without a promise of an extra 50k behind the scenes bonus.
I wonder how that contract is written as to how much flexibility the organization has to modify events.
Er....does this mean that the distance group only does 3000?
No doubling for them?
Skuj wrote:
Er....does this mean that the distance group only does 3000?
No doubling for them?
Not sure why you think I would know. I’m wondering the same thing myself!
No double for the distance runners and their potential prize money is cut in half.
More proof that this entire experiment is a total failure. They are losing money and will not find sponsors next year. Enjoy the last two Grand Salm events before the whole disaster is cancelled.
Johnson would have been remembered for his gold medals in Atlanta; instead, he will be remembered for this abomination of track and field.
So is the women's 5K from Miami going to be the fastest 5K in Grand Slam history as of now?
Big fan of the 2-day meet. Wife and I live in San Diego and went to UCLA. We were unlikely to go to Grand Slam LA since there's no way we could get to Westwood on Friday easily with LA traffic and we would miss 25-33% of the races over the weekend, so might be pointless to go at all. Much more likely to attend Sat/Sun now.
vh1337 wrote:
So is the women's 5K from Miami going to be the fastest 5K in Grand Slam history as of now?
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Fisher ran 13:40 in Miami
vh1337 wrote:
So is the women's 5K from Miami going to be the fastest 5K in Grand Slam history as of now?
No. Fisher won the men's 5K at that meet in 13:40.
I think changing to just 2 days is a good decision. I still think they are too tied to having the exact same format at each meet - I think it would be more exciting to see something a bit different each time. For the LD group, for the remaining 2 meets you could have one be just a 5k and one be a 1500 and 3k double.
Hey GST, you're welcome for the recommendations. But I would advise to stop stealing peoples ideas for free.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
-Thus love just simplifying to one race where these guys can forgo jogging at least after the first four to five minutes
-Friday's tickets sales indicated it wasn't worth going 3 days as people have work/obligations, the scene was much better on Saturday/Sunday
-I still don't need the sprint hurdlers sprinting, but whatever
- 2 days is better, if I didn't have my nephew/niece b-day party I'd go to Philly for both and even cough up for lodging if i couldn't find somewhere to crash.
Jonathan and I are working on an article on the news. But why does anyone think this will impact the jog fest nature of it? It might even make it more likely to happen. There is now a lot of prize money for one race so you aren't going to take any chances in serving as the sacrificial lamb.
They should have had one of the races be rabbitted. One not-rabbitted.
rojo wrote:
Jonathan and I are working on an article on the news. But why does anyone think this will impact the jog fest nature of it? It might even make it more likely to happen. There is now a lot of prize money for one race so you aren't going to take any chances in serving as the sacrificial lamb.
They should have had one of the races be rabbitted. One not-rabbitted.
It depends on who's in the race. With Agnes Ngetich, we can be assured the women's race will be at an honest pace throughout. On the men's side, Fisher learned his lesson in Miami and showed he's willing to push the pace earlier if he's concerned about there being better kickers than him in the field.
rojo wrote:
Jonathan and I are working on an article on the news. But why does anyone think this will impact the jog fest nature of it? It might even make it more likely to happen. There is now a lot of prize money for one race so you aren't going to take any chances in serving as the sacrificial lamb.
They should have had one of the races be rabbitted. One not-rabbitted.
In the men's 3k, I agree it's likely that we'll still see a slow race. But, I think having just one race does increase the odds that someone will be willing to try to break it open with a mile to go rather than wait until the last 400, because they won't be worried about saving themselves for the next race or tired from a prior race. It just becomes more like your typical championship distance race, as opposed to trying to conserve energy in order to maximize your points over two races.
This is a good change for fans. I originally had Saturday tickets for the 1500. Just emailed the ticket office to have them switched to Sunday and now get the 1500 and 3000. Not so good for those who don't live close by or can't change their plans to get here on Sunday.
Basically, the long distance men screwed the long distance women. Grant Fisher should be ashamed.